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| raquel - 2007-08-23 9:00 AM
Jonnie, you must move in slow motion  
Do you still teach and practice ashtanga style?
I wouldn't say I move in slow motion, but nothing about my practise is fast (except maybe the jump backs which are still a work in progress )
I practise every morning, though since the birth of baby Charlie it's become a bit of a challenge and time is a little more restricted.
I teach privately though not in a group setting. I have to travel a lot for my job so commiting to a regular teaching time is not possible.
Jonathon
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| Ive never seen John Scott practice but I have heard his jump backs are in slow motion and he moves effortlessly into handstand.
My children fill my time, dont feel bad to say I cant wait for them to go back to school, these long holidays are killing my asana practice!!!
 never mind this too will pass
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| Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwqxZiM9y4
It's still too fast though
Rachel, I would as a management trainer/consultant.
Jonathon
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| Enjoyed it. |
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Location: London, England | Hi Jonathon,
That was about three seconds-pretty fast.
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| Sorry Nick, wrong clip.
I meant to post this one to show rachel David Swenson's jump backs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI25FyEOvlI&mode=related&search=
In the previous clip he is fast, though he is also talking (so not working with the breath )
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| Yes his jump back was quick, love his teaching style, his warmth and sense of humour realy appeal to me. Somtimes yoga is taken much to seriously, what was that saying "yoga is to important to be taken seriously" dont know who said it but its true.
Maybe there is a clip of john scott somewhere? |
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| I was thinking that too.
His count is pretty quick. But I do enjoy his teaching. When I went to his teacher training. His wife Shelley specifically told me that I was counting too slow!
At the time I was practicing at least a 5 count breath. Since then, I've realized that 3-5 count works better for me. Especially when I get to Navasana. ugh!
I did some experimenting with slower quieter breath this morning. It was very nice. We gotta get you on utube!
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Location: London, England | Hi Jonathon,
I think that's the wrong clip again
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| No, it's the right clip, though only about 2.5 seconds is relevant though
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Location: London, England | Am I being dense? That video was about lifting from downdog, not from uttanasana.
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| Yes, you're right.
It's the only one I could find, but at least it shows him jumping (kind of).
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Location: London, England | Ah, gotcha.
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| Jonnie cant you video yourself and post it on you tube (doing your vinyasa) I would love to see it |
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| raquel - 2007-08-24 11:32 AM
Jonnie cant you video yourself and post it on you tube (doing your vinyasa ) I would love to see it
I'd rather not.
I hope I haven't given the impression that it's anything special. I sure it's no better or worse than the average practitioner.
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Location: London, England | Hi Jonathon,
I wouldn't say that-the average length of time is probably two seconds maximum. For most people, to breathe out for 12 seconds whilst they are basically lifting as though going in to a handstand, and then pulling the feet back to land in chaturanga, would be impossible-I've never seen it done-I know it's possible-it's basically a planche, which is again impossible for most people. Do you practice planches?
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| Nick - 2007-08-25 10:05 PM
Hi Jonathon,
I wouldn't say that-the average length of time is probably two seconds maximum. For most people, to breathe out for 12 seconds whilst they are basically lifting as though going in to a handstand, and then pulling the feet back to land in chaturanga, would be impossible-I've never seen it done-I know it's possible-it's basically a planche, which is again impossible for most people. Do you practice planches?
Nick
Hi Nick,
Yes, I do practise planches, though I wouldn't say I was very good at them. We discussed this a while back when talking about American Gymnast and push up bars if I remember correctly.
I'm getting confused now. I'm not saying it takes 12 seconds for my feet to float through the air. Please reread my first post on the top of page two. I'm saying the whole movement including holding Chaturanga Dandasana takes 12 seconds.
Jonathon
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Location: London, England | Hi Jonathon,
Still impressive! There's no putting me off now I mean, are you spending several seconds in chaturanga? Because I think the idea is to spend the entire period of the exhale airborne-and to actually make the exhale powerful enough that it is finished by the time you land in chaturanga dandasana. My therapeutic instincts tell me that this is correct (blood pressure, performance, optimised function, etc).
What then happens is that chaturanga dandasana becomes a movement, rather than a posture-there is a seamless flow from landing to updog, rather than even a split second in the chaturanga posture. This is difficult! It helps to ensure that you don't jump back, but lift-if you jump, it means when you land, the feet are being driven backwards. If you lift, then the feet land and you can immediately pull forwards into up-dog.
But then again, we all have differnt ways of tackling astanga, and probably adopt what suits us, so who am I to say?
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| Jonnie,
I'm learning how to go from handstand very slowly down to chaturanga. I just picked it up recently.
How's tall are you?
I could be wrong, but it seems like smaller guys tend to be better gymnastics.
My old student was a gymnast and he could lift up like it was nothing. He was only about 5'8"
Very very strong. He used to tour with some acrobats for Disney until he broke his back.
I can do basic tumbling: ariels, forward, back and side. Front and back flips, back handsprings, walkovers, handstands, whipbacks, tick-tock. That kind of stuff. |
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| Nick - 2007-08-25 11:07 PM
Hi Jonathon,
are you spending several seconds in chaturanga? Because I think the idea is to spend the entire period of the exhale airborne-and to actually make the exhale powerful enough that it is finished by the time you land in chaturanga dandasana. My therapeutic instincts tell me that this is correct (blood pressure, performance, optimised function, etc).
Yes, my intention is always to spend a couple of seconds in chaturanga dandasana depending on how much breath and strength I have. It's the way that I was taught.
I have always viewed chaturanga dandasana as an asana as opposed to a movement.
I do lift as opposed to jump, though definately agree doing it the way that you have described would only take a couple of seconds.
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Jonnie,
I'm learning how to go from handstand very slowly down to chaturanga. I just picked it up recently.
How's tall are you?
I could be wrong, but it seems like smaller guys tend to be better gymnastics.
My old student was a gymnast and he could lift up like it was nothing. He was only about 5'8"
Very very strong. He used to tour with some acrobats for Disney until he broke his back.
I can do basic tumbling: ariels, forward, back and side. Front and back flips, back handsprings, walkovers, handstands, whipbacks, tick-tock. That kind of stuff.
Very impressive Eric.
I'm 6 2" (no idea in metric )
Jonathon
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| I'm more like a spring than a crane. |
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Location: London, England | Very well put, Eric
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| Going back to the jump backs on you tube, there's some good ones at the start of this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu9Sq1RvuoA
Won't say anything about the camera work but the yoga is pretty good!
Also I have John Scott's DVD and his jump forward is scary. He reaches a moment of suspension with his feet between his hands but about an inch off the floor before lowering them.
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