kulkarnn - 2007-07-25 10:42 PM
Discussion 5
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Jim-When someone is asking for technical advice
(ie how do I become more flexible or whatever
) of course you must assess their current flexibility and look for what is blocking their natural flexibility potential before you can suggest a course of action. That is not judging that person but rather responding to their request with an educated answer. Everything is still changing with time. but your response to that individual is how
(in your opinion, whether experienced or not
) to facilitate a change in direction, in the continuum of change that is already taking place. I am hoping that neither your suggestions nor that person's body will be static.
Neel - Question1 for Jim: Dear Jim: When such a person comes to you for flexibility advice, assuming this situation existed, will you tell that person that I am giving you certain advice in the sense of checking what is blocking your flexibility, etc. and giving you advice to change in the direction of already changing universe? Will you also tell him that your advice itself is also undergoing such a change and if he/she comes to you again, you shall be giving him PROBABLY a changed advice?
Answer 1 for Neel- Whether you tell this person all this or just answer their question would be your best judgement at that time and place. I sincerely hope that your advice will change over time as otherwise there would be no reason for that individual to come back to see you.
(Since they will have changed when they see you next, your advice also needs to change.
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Question 2 for Jim - Your method of checking what is blocking the flexibility. Will that be based on your or someone else's past experiences or only current awareness?
Answer 2 for Neel - My method will be based on my current awareness. My current awareness includes my interpretations of my past experiences as well as what I have heard and read, and even my genetic makeup. It could also be based on insight that is a sudden understanding.
(These come to people from time to time.
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Jim-The above situation is probably not a representative sample of Westerners, although I agree that many "modern" people worldwide seem to have trouble with learning and perfecting a prescribed method. You are right that I am actually advancing an alternative "prescribed method" rather than eliminating "prescribed mothods" altogether. Please define "Self Enquiry."
Neel - Q1: How do you know 'modern people' have this trouble?
A1:I did not say "modern People", I said many "modern people". The difference is that I have noticed this trend in more than a few people but am not applying this to anyone else.
Q2: Is your statement using word 'modern people' in pllace of my word 'western people' a judgement similar to mine or it is a benign statement?
A2: See A1.
Q3
o you beleve in Statistics? If yes, do you think that if I had 4000 western students and more than half of them are having a particular situation, I should make that statement? And, if I find that much less than 5 percent non Westerners only are having that situation, I can compare western verses non western or not?
A3: I believe that Statistics can be a useful tool. It is also often used to distort rather than prove. You don't have a representative sampling, so the result is not statistically valid. In your experience this is true, but your experience cannot be applied to the world at large.
Discussion 6
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Questions for Neel:
1. Please define Self Enquiry.
2. Without self knowledge, how do you really know anything?
any atheists here?
