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neither philosphy nor religion
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kristi
Posted 2007-05-29 4:08 PM (#87705)
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Yoga is neither a philosphy nor a religion.?
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kristi
Posted 2007-05-29 4:17 PM (#87709 - in reply to #87705)
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Better said: although there is a philosophy of yoga and there is a religion of yoga, yoga itself is neither a philosophy nor a religion. I think yoga is just a way to be.
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SCThornley
Posted 2007-05-29 4:50 PM (#87715 - in reply to #87705)
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Isn't there a technical school of thought well defined in the foundations of Yoga that require no necessity for the existence of an Almighty?

Yoga, for me, tends to be more and more about consciousness and developing it.


My asana practice does play a role in grounding me to my body and in my body, but it's just a small part of Yoga------->for me.
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kulkarnn
Posted 2007-05-29 5:21 PM (#87721 - in reply to #87715)
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Kristi: Better said: although there is a philosophy of yoga and there is a religion of yoga, yoga itself is neither a philosophy nor a religion. I think yoga is just a way to be.

========> What do you mean by 'whether Yoga is Philosophy'? Philosophy is philosophy and there is philosophy of eating, philosophy of yoga, etc. However, Yoga is hightly phiiosophical subject and understanding of that philosophy is very important for a successful practice of Yoga, or at least for one who is going serious in it. See www.youtube.com Search = Neel Kulkarni and check Philosophy portions.



SCThornley - 2007-05-29 4:50 PM

Isn't there a technical school of thought well defined in the foundations of Yoga that require no necessity for the existence of an Almighty?
===> Yes, Sankhyas a stage before the Yoga does not include existence of Ishwara. However, Sankhya is Philosophy. And, Yoga is another philosophy where Ishwara is added, and makes the Yoga practice more profound and meaningful. However, the concept of Ishwara in Yoga is Not same as Almighty. And, lastly, without the Ishwara concept, at one stage, the Yoga practice remains incomplete, at best.

samaadhisiddhiriishwarapranidhaanat... Patanjali.



Yoga, for me, tends to be more and more about consciousness and developing it.
===> Fantastic. When that consciousness is developed in a very subtle way, the concept of Ishwara is automatically found, even if not adopted at the beginning.


bhaja govindam bhaja govindam ...... sampraapte sannihite kaale na hi na hi rakshati dukrukarane... Adi Shankara who wrote also the following: (Summary: Surrender to Ishwara.)....Bhaja Govindam... Adi Shankara .

chidanandaroopo shivoham shivoham....(I am the blissful consciousness, and nothing else.)...Nirvanashatakam ... Adi Shankara.

He wrote the Bhaja Govindam later.


My asana practice does play a role in grounding me to my body and in my body, but it's just a small part of Yoga------->for me.

===> I respect that. And, with your unreceived permission, make the following joke: Though your body is much bigger than of mine, our spirits are the same.


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SCThornley
Posted 2007-05-29 5:27 PM (#87722 - in reply to #87705)
Subject: RE: neither philosphy nor reli


O my

now I must learn about Ishwara


and I thought I had started my learning years ago.......

thanks, Neel

I'm off on a new adventure into knowledge!!
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kristi
Posted 2007-05-30 3:24 PM (#87870 - in reply to #87705)
Subject: RE: neither philosphy nor religion


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Neel wrote
========> What do you mean by 'whether Yoga is Philosophy'? Philosophy is philosophy and there is philosophy of eating, philosophy of yoga, etc. However, Yoga is hightly phiiosophical subject and understanding of that philosophy is very important for a successful practice of Yoga, or at least for one who is going serious in it.


Of course I agree with the above !!
What I meant to say, Neel, is that yoga is not ONLY philosophy, but also much more.
Development of consciousness, as SCThornley has written…
A “way to be”, like I wrote before…
Constant exercise of the body and the mind…
Unity with the laws of Nature…
Kindness and understanding…
A path to self knowledge…
A path to spirituality (that might also be called religious?)
Many many things…
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Bob
Posted 2007-05-31 4:31 PM (#88050 - in reply to #87705)
Subject: RE: neither philosphy nor religion


Yoga = I am
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Kaos
Posted 2007-06-02 3:46 PM (#88267 - in reply to #87705)
Subject: RE: neither philosphy nor religion


Yoga, from the Sanskrit root word "yuj", meaning to "control", "yoke", "unite" is a general term in Hinduism and has a wide range of meanings.

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