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Location: New Jersey | My fiance snores really loud! Besides the fact that is keeps me awake, and we often end up sleeping in separate rooms, it can't be good for him. I read somewhere that people who snore don't get the quality of sleep that they need. We've tried using breath right strips, snore away mouthwash, and this little plastic thingy with magnets that you clip in your nose but none worked. Does anyone have any suggestions? Samantha |
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| Neti pot? I've never used on, but it sounds like a good way to clear the nasal passages.
Edited by GreenJello 2007-01-15 11:39 PM
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| I know this sounds crazy, but what works is a snoreguard through your dentist. We have had patients who have had a uvlopalatopharyngoplasty :  , the surgery to remove part of the soft palate and the little drop of tissue hanging from that area, that have had no luck. The snoreguard is custom made to fit the mouth and works by gently pulling the jaw forward. It fits on both arches of the mouth and is attached together by a rubberband looking device. Ya'll, I have seen the results--I had a patient come for his cleaning and would fall asleep in the chair as soon as he hit it. He snored while I was working on him and it is hard to work on someone when the mouth is halfway open. We made him a snoreguard and his wive called to thank us because she cxould sleep with him again and when he came in for his cleaning he stayed awake!! The snoreguard is cheaper than surgery and has helped the sleeper get a more restful sleep than be for. I just wanted you to know the options. I will find the website for you so you can research for yourself and find a DDS that can help you.  Hope this info helps!
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| Here is what we use: http://www.glidewell-lab.com/pdf/brochures_patient/silent_nite_bro.pdf
This snoreguard is a good one. You will fill out a questionarie, have impressions of the mouth taken and all of that will go to Glidewell lab where they make the guard. The second appointment will be to fit the guard so that it is effective and comfortable. Follow-up appointments should be made to check how the guard is doing and if it needs adjusting etc. I hope this info makes sense-if not just let me know! |
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Location: New Jersey | tourist - 2007-01-15 11:15 PM Ear plugs. The cheap foam ones from the drug store I've tried them. They don't work for me. He really snores that loud! |
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Location: New Jersey | namaste2 - 2007-01-16 9:18 AM Here is what we use: http://www.glidewell-lab.com/pdf/brochures_patient/silent_nite_bro.pdf This snoreguard is a good one. You will fill out a questionarie, have impressions of the mouth taken and all of that will go to Glidewell lab where they make the guard. The second appointment will be to fit the guard so that it is effective and comfortable. Follow-up appointments should be made to check how the guard is doing and if it needs adjusting etc. I hope this info makes sense-if not just let me know! Thanks for this info! I'll talk to him about it. Otherwise we're going to need his and hers bedrooms! Samantha |
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| I'm going to pass the info on to my Mom. My Dad has extreme sleep apnea- 96 episodes in 1 hour! He just got the machine from his ENT doc, but he doesn't like it, feels like someone is blowing air down his throat- it keeps him awake.. maybe he'd like this better.
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| Is this person overweight?
I've heard herbal remedies such as Fenugreek&Thyme can help this. It's supposedly a result of excess mucous in the system.
Another thing to try would be to turn them over on their side when sleeping. |
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| My husband has sleep apnea as well (don't now how many episodes per hour though) and has been using that breathing machine religiously ever since he got 2 years ago. Needless to say, he doesn't snore anymore and claims to finally feel well rested in the mornings. It really is the best remedy, provided the mask fits well. Maybe that's your dad's problem with it, that the mask isn't perfectly molded to his face? And isn't the air supposed to be breathed in through the nose, not the mouth? I don't really know that much about the mechanics of the thing, other than that my husband truly swears by it. And now I can finally sleep as well! |
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Location: New Jersey | JoeNJ - 2007-01-19 12:16 PM Is this person overweight? I've heard herbal remedies such as Fenugreek&Thyme can help this. It's supposedly a result of excess mucous in the system. Another thing to try would be to turn them over on their side when sleeping. He's actually very fit. Would the Fenugreek and Thyme work anyway? Samantha |
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| I asked my husband about the breathing problem you described with your dad's machine (CPAP), and he said it's that he's keeping his mouth open while wearing it. He said it took him a while to learn how to keep his mouth closed while sleeping, but that's really the trick to getting the benefit provided by the machine. Hope that helped! |
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| Hey Samantha,
Some snoring remedies...
The following tips may give you relief with your snoring problems.
1. Avoid dairy products, which can cause mucus build-up right before you go to sleep.
2. Try taking in a little bit of honey before sleeping.
3. Avoid eating "rich" foods such as cookies, cakes, chocolate and pizza.
4. Avoid heavy meals before going to bed because if your stomach is full it will push up on your diaphragm and limit breathing passage ways.
5. Sleep on a firmer pillow, a pillow which is too soft encourages your throat muscles to relax and narrows your air passageway.
6. Inhale steam before sleeping, it will reduce blocking and moisturize the throat.
7. Use nasal strips and put them on before going to sleep. Nasal strips will open up your nostrils and allow more air to come in, thus reduce snoring.
Marvin.
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| samantha77 - 2007-01-15 11:05 PM
My fiance snores really loud! Besides the fact that is keeps me awake, and we often end up sleeping in separate rooms, it can't be good for him. I read somewhere that people who snore don't get the quality of sleep that they need. We've tried using breath right strips, snore away mouthwash, and this little plastic thingy with magnets that you clip in your nose but none worked. Does anyone have any suggestions? Samantha
I am going to give my input after seeing this post after a long time after the original post.
After following whatever means you want to do in a short period of time, if the snoring is not going away, do the following:
- Do not start snoring (complaining) yourself.
- Accept that snoring is a part of your fiance (in my Indian terminology, your husband).
- Now, try to develop habit of sleeping with love while another person snores. Yes, that is possible.
- if you fail in developing the habit, make a peaceful resolution that you shall sleep separately. And, still love each other. I mean you come together to make love, but still continue loving while in separate rooms.
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| OM- I just saw the reply you posted! I'll tell Dad this info! Thanks!  |
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| I am another apnea sufferer. I forget my number, but it put me barely in the severe range. I have been using the machine nightly. If you read the info on apnea, you will find this is serious stuff. The probability of heart or other circulatory problems in an untreated apnea sufferer is much higher than for most people. I am overweight, but the sleep techs and my doctor tell me that yes, I should lose some, but it won't account for it. Obese apnea patients sometimes can lose the weight and have the apnea go away. I might get my number down but still need the machine. The first step is to see a doctor and get the test if it is ordered. |
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| samantha77 - 2007-01-15 8:05 PM
My fiance snores really loud! Besides the fact that is keeps me awake, and we often end up sleeping in separate rooms, it can't be good for him. I read somewhere that people who snore don't get the quality of sleep that they need. We've tried using breath right strips, snore away mouthwash, and this little plastic thingy with magnets that you clip in your nose but none worked. Does anyone have any suggestions? Samantha
Hi Samantha,
A recent experiene was informative to me re snoring... A mid-50s woman was referred by her physician for yoga therapy following a car crash. She was skeptical during the first class, not accepting even being touched and complaining about pain at the slightest adjustment/correction in simple resting poses. She began to soften by the third class and was eager and involved by the fourth class. A very nice change in her mental acceptance of what we were doing was most welcome.
We had completed eight hourly sessions (she was one of seven student/patients in this class), when she told me that she had been able to put away her apnea machine after several years of using it and had been sleeping very well. This was not part of what I had intended, nor did I even know she used the machine. I asked her how she had done that. She reported that our emphasis on strict nasal breathing during class (and attention to it at all other times as well) had allowed her respiratory system to go through some very valuable changes. By restricting her breathing to nasal only, her mucus levels had reduced and her general oxygenation level seemed to be improving allowing her to slow her breathing and let her relax much more deeply. She reported that as she noticed these changes, she started focusing mentally on nasal breathing at night. I had mentioned in class that she could place her tongue gently behind the upper teeth and that she would still be able to breathe through the nose even with the mouth slightly open. She had been focusing on that at night. Coupling the intellectual intent (of nasal breathing) with the grounding experience of yogasana had allowed her to make quick progress.
Months have passed now and she reports still not using the apnea machine and is practicing yogasana daily.
We know that humans are obligate nasal breathers (we all breathe through the nose at birth), but lose the connection over time without focused attention to it. Stress levels, as measured by blood levels of cortisol, will increase as we breathe through the mouth. Mouth inhalation (opening into lungs is large) inhibits the amount of oxygen that is allowed through the alveolar tissue in the lungs; nasal inhalation (opening is smaller, slowing the inhalation process) allows more oxygen through the lungs into the blood stream. Further, the paranasal sinuses (one in each nostril) emits Nitric Oxide (NO) which further allows more oxygen through the lungs into the blood. NO also is a smooth muscle relaxant, so it's presence in the blood stream relaxes the muscles surrounding the blood vessles allowing more blood into every cell in the body. This increased oxygentation to the cells allows the respiratory system to slow, rest and repair itself. Blood pressure lowers as cells are well oxygenated. Breathing out through the mouth (large opening) allows too much carbon dioxide (C02) to escape the lungs. As a result, the next inhalation will not allow as much oxygen though the lungs in order for the lungs to rebuild the C02 levels back up. To maintain high, relaxing levels of oxygen in the cells of the body, we need to inhale and exhale through the nose as much as comfortably possible.
This is an example of how one person was able to abandon the apnea machine after years of using it at night. Additional information about the role of nasal breathing can be goggled through MedPub. I'd also suggest researching Nitric Oxide and Buteyko Breathing (the work of Constantin Buteyko, a Russian respiratory specialist) in this regard. The remarkable recuperative abilities of the human body are available to us, but we must recognize that such healing is possible and practice sincerely for it to manifest. Discovering a healing path for ourself affirms us and brings forth deep gratitude for the miracle of the human organism. God willing, these benefits may arise.
Michael
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| Michael,
That is interesting, but does that only apply to people having trouble with mouth breathing? I think that is a small percentage of apnea patients. The "masks" need to be replaced once or twice a year and at the suppliers office the majority of the options they offer are nasal only. They have full face masks for people who have trouble with mouth breathing, but they are generally special order. I also converse some on apnea forums and get the same impression - it's not incredibly rar to have trouble with mouth breathing, but most people don't seem to. |
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| Hi Andy,
I get students who immediately complain that they can't breathe through their nostrils when first introduced to nasal breathing. What a clear example of how our minds dictate who we are. It appears that mouth breathing perpetuates mouth breathing, that the body's wisdom increases mucus in the nostrils as we continue to breathe through the mouth. This apparently occurs as the body tries to increase the amount of carbon dioxice (C02) in the lungs. This all flows out of Constantine Buteyko's work: if we exhale through the mouth, the lungs try to restore C02 levels and attempts to slow the amount of O2 coming into the lungs by clogging up the nostrils with mucus (accomplished by the goblet cells in each nostril responding to nerve stimulation from the respiratory center). The constant mouth exhalation keeps the mucus level in the nostrils so clogged that we begin to believe that our nose just doesn't work for letting air into the system.
Dr. Butyeko overcomes nasal clogging in the following exercise. He recommends finding the nostril which is most clogged by closing one at a time with finger pressure. Then, hold the most clogged nostril closed while breathing slowly through the open nostril, lengthening the exhalation phase comfortably as possible. Breathe in this one nostril manner for several breaths. The clogged nostril will open as the nasal breathing from the open nostril triggers changes in the lungs which will inhibit the nerve stimulation to the goblet cells producing mucus in the nostrils. You may have to do this several times to get the closed nostril open, but it works for most people. As we are able to experience more time breathing nasally, the mucus level in the nostrils diminishes and eases. If we can get a start on nasal breathing, it will continue to improve in most cases.
Buteyko introduces an interesting test of how well we each use carbon dioxide (C02). He advises to hold the breath at the end of a normal exhalation (not one that follows hyper ventilation), not going all the way to the bottom by pulling in the abdomen - just a normal end of exhalation. Hold the breath, but not so long that the movement back into inhalation is labored, or involves the diaphragm 'catching' as it re-engages the breath. If we are using C02 well ( a sign that we are in good respiratory health), then we should be able to hold the exhalation for about 45-60 seconds before having to inhale. Most people at the outset can only do about 10-15 seconds. Buteyko teaches that lengthening this interval at end of exhalation can be accomplished by just practicing the test: hold the breath at end of exhalation and build up your time of comfortable holding. You can feel the fire holding exhalation. This is how using C02 feels. As we get better at it, respiratory complaints diminish. Buteyko, who has worked with thousands of asthmatics, claims that asthma can be cured by this process of focused breathing and offers his research as evidence of same.
However, many patients will need individual guidance in order to overcome fears and apprehensions with such procedures. We are further informed that breath control needs yogasana in order to ground the experience in the body, an element that (IMHO) slows Butyeko's method.
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| In an odd way, I think the CPAP has made me less prone to mouth breathing than before. If you use a nasal device (digging around, I couldn't find figures, but t does look like anything else is rarer than I thought) when you open your mouth it is like a leak in the pressurized system and air blows out your mouth. It's loud and uncomfortable. It woke me when I did it. I rarely did it to begin with and now that I have been using it a while I almost never do. I don't even mouth breath when I run. Yawning is about the only time I open the mouth-to-windpipe connnection. No doubt yoga and other meditation has played a part in that also, but I think the CPAP "training" is mostly responsible. |
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| Over weight causes snoring and especially body fat around neck causes snoring. Lose weight to prevent snoring. You have to take healthy diet and follow exercise routine to control your weight. You can practice yoga or perform aerobic exercises to lose your weight and prevent snoring.
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| HI Marvin - haven't seen you in awhile. Losing weight CAN but does not always prevent snoring. I have met some very fit and slim people who snore and I have had many small children in my care who snored like chainsaws for no apparent reason. If a person is very overweight, it is another reason to work on losing it, though, asit probably will have an effect. |
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| Wearing CPAP machine can stop snoring in some snorers. For some people, changing the sleep position is beneficial. Many people only snore when they are on their back. Those people avoid sleeping on their back to stop snoring.
For different condition, the treatment will be different. If narrow throat or nasal passage is the cause, consult and discuss with your doctor which snoring remedy is best for you
Some interesting info... A German scientist, Daryoush Bazargani, has come up with a solution for snoring. He, a computer science professor at the Rostock University, Germany, presented a computerized pillow that can stop you from snoring.
This computerized pillow is supposed to prevent or reduce snoring in the person by shifting the sleeping position of the head until the snoring sound stops. The pillow is connected to a computer, which is of the size of book and analyses noises of snoring.
Snoring
Marvin.
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| Try reading this article, it may help.
http://hometreatment.net/home-remedies/generalized-problems/how-to-stop-snoring/ |
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