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SCThornley
Posted 2006-07-13 1:55 PM (#58577)
Subject: heard on the radio


heard about cardiograms and how women store fat vs men

seems men's fat clumps and shows up on cardiograms

while women's fat deposits uniformally and does not show up on cardiograms

so chest and arm pain has been being misdiagnosed in women with heart disease

anybody else hear about this?

still the best perscription for prevention was daily physical exercise do i hear the yoga mat calling?
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Debby
Posted 2006-07-13 5:48 PM (#58609 - in reply to #58577)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


Actually cardiograms (EKGs) only show the electrical portion of the heart.

Deb
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SCThornley
Posted 2006-07-13 7:57 PM (#58619 - in reply to #58609)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


Debby - 2006-07-13 5:48 PM

Actually cardiograms (EKGs) only show the electrical portion of the heart.

Deb


oh, i didn't know.
did you hear about this on the radio as well?
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Orbilia
Posted 2006-07-14 5:31 AM (#58636 - in reply to #58619)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


I've not heard about the fat distribution argument before but it is true that silent heart attacks are more prevalent in women than in men. This is one of the reasons why doctors are alarmed at the increase in hypertension rates in women.

..oooOooo...

I've done several web-searches but can't find any scientific papers on this. There have been several studies which demonstrate links between white adipose tissue distribution and obesity-related diseases such as arteriosclerosis, however any correlations found have been more notable in men than in women!

Fee

Edited by Orbilia 2006-07-14 6:01 AM
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SCThornley
Posted 2006-07-14 9:59 AM (#58657 - in reply to #58577)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


i heard it on Public Radio, so maybe they have it on their site, i'll check

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5552425

found it!!!!!

this is a big deal!

Edited by SCThornley 2006-07-14 10:00 AM
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Orbilia
Posted 2006-07-14 11:55 AM (#58680 - in reply to #58657)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


That's really interesting, SC. I wonder why the morphology of the plaques is so different? It seems a lot of difference to be explained away just be gender. I think further research is going to throw up a lot more on this one. It's odd I couldn't find a paper though as most researchers wouldn't talk to the media until they were peer published.

I'm left wanting to know more :-)

Fee
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SCThornley
Posted 2006-07-14 1:34 PM (#58694 - in reply to #58577)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


as the wife and i grow up together 'womens' health' issues are more interesting to me because i want my wife to stay healthy.

i'm glad to see more attention being paid to sex specific variables and possible causes.

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Debby
Posted 2006-07-14 6:06 PM (#58711 - in reply to #58694)
Subject: RE: heard on the radio


SCThornley - 2006-07-14 11:34 AM

as the wife and i grow up together 'womens' health' issues are more interesting to me because i want my wife to stay healthy.

i'm glad to see more attention being paid to sex specific variables and possible causes.



You're right. This is indeed important. (because of familial history, I get a mammogram every year)

:: an angiogram would show bumps and lumps in the blood flow. A women's angiogram looks smooth. ::

FYI an angiogram will only show the inside of the arteries where the the dye is injected during the procedure. It can, in fact, show the narrowing of the artery where there is plaque build up,
clot build up, or spasms. But you have to be pretty sick to get an angiogram because the risks of the procedure are pretty high and would not be worth it if there wasn't a problem.

On another note along the same line, I went to a Coronary Care Workshop in Billings, MT a couple of years ago and there was a women cardiologist that talked about fat distribution in women. She was saying that if fat is distributed centrally (women shaped like an apple) there was a much greater risk for heart disease than a women who carried fat more peripherally (shaped like a pear).

So it is better to be a pear than an apple! (ok that is where I carry my fat -- but I still have a risk for breast cancer.)

I think that yogis and especially yoginis who follow a reasonable diet and do their yoga (and other exercises) regularly have little to worry about. Yearly check-ups and an EKG after 40 y/o is also a good idea.

Deb

P.S. can you tell I work with a lot of cardiac patients?
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tourist
Posted 2006-07-14 6:45 PM (#58716 - in reply to #58711)
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Skewing the thread a bit - the number one risk factor for breast cancer is being female but coronary disease is the number one killer of women by FAR.
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Posted 2006-07-18 10:04 PM (#59016 - in reply to #58716)
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There is also a link between periodontal (gum) disease and heart disease.
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Orbilia
Posted 2006-07-19 5:43 AM (#59046 - in reply to #59016)
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Yep. This is also one of the reasons vets now advocate you cleaning your cats and dogs teeth. The bacterial load in the mouth also affects the liver and kidneys and diseases of these organs are the most common forms of death in UK pets after traffic accidents (note, my info on this may be a little out of date stats-wise).

Fee
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kristi
Posted 2006-07-24 5:55 PM (#59558 - in reply to #58577)
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Given the chance, I am wondering: has there ever been any scientific or statistic research about the most common or the less common diseases or causes that yogis die ? Or about the percentages that have to do with all these and with the avarage age of their death etc. ? Any comparison with people that don't do yoga ?
(sorry, it's a weird theme... but I was just wondering)
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