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Required Cardio Time?
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LadyCelt
Posted 2006-04-15 1:38 PM (#49689)
Subject: Required Cardio Time?


I've heard you need 32 minutes or more of continuous cardio to lose weight. Cany anyone hel with this?
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MidPack
Posted 2006-04-15 4:16 PM (#49705 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?


Where did you hear that? I am sure 20 minutes of cardio at high intensity would be more beneficial than 32 minutes at medium intensity.
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kulkarnn
Posted 2006-04-15 5:06 PM (#49709 - in reply to #49689)
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LadyCelt: I've heard you need 32 minutes or more of continuous cardio to lose weight. Cany anyone hel with this? 38.5 pounds lost and 17 pounds left to lose.

===> I think your statement is made with the assumption that one is going to use Cardio to lose the weight. If you meant, whether cardio is needed to loose the weight, then the statement is False. You do no t need any cardio to loose the weight. If you want to know one example go to www.authenticyoga.org and look for a person called Cathy Andrews who came to me 4 years ago. I did not even ask her whether she wants to loose weight, neither she told me so. And, for sure, I did not give her any cardio work. She said she lost a lot (see what that was, it does not matter to me how much) with less than 32 min exercise. She attended my wedding last year after 3 to 4 years beyond the class she attended and in last two weeks she came to my book opening. She still has maintained that weight loss.

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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-15 5:19 PM (#49711 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Location: right where I'm supposed to be		In order to lose wt, you need to modify your comsumption of food, and increase your metabolism. This is fact.
On the other hand, if you build muscle mass, you may lose inches but not necessarily wt.

Cardio/aerobic activity increases the metabolism. Yoga can sculpt the body too. A modified diet of healthy food portions, lots of water and yoga is fine for persons of all sizes and they will re-sculpt the body but in order to jump start the metabolism activities such as walking, biking, swimming.....are excellent to compliment a yoga practice and rev up the process of dropping pounds.
The recommendations for aerobic exercise use to be 20 minutes three times a week but that has been increased to 5 days a week. These recommendations are for optimal health benefits and wt loss.

Mish

Edited by mishoga 2006-04-15 5:20 PM
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Nick
Posted 2006-04-16 3:12 AM (#49737 - in reply to #49689)
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Location: London, England		Hi LadyCelt,
I think the latest research that I've read on this is to raise the amount of time you spend doing the exercise-about 45 miutes as a minimum. The other good thing to do is to keep doing short burst throughout the day, such as a fast walk to get lunch or shopping, picking kids up, etc-this keeps the metabolic rate raised, so that it will always be burning more fuel
Take care
Nick
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YogaGuy
Posted 2006-04-16 7:43 AM (#49746 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?


Type faster to get your heart rate up.

Losing weight is simple: eat less, work more. Try doing ashtanga yoga everyday and eating right. That works for most people. I can help you lose weight with 4 minutes of cardio a day, if you wanted to actually do some work. It's what you do and how you do it. You can spend an hour a day on the bike reading your Glamour magazines and not see any results. A simple "do 32 minutes of cardio a day prescription" is useless unless you understand what you are supposed to do and how you are supposed to do it.

The fact is that if you asked people how to lose weight everyone would have some answer. We have all heard a million commercials, read diet books and articles and even tried a handful of miracle products. The problems is not in our knowledge but in our actions. We don't stick with it. We don't do what we know we are supposed to do. You know you should eat right, eat less, workout, do yoga, do cardio, etc. The problem is you don't actually do any of it. We confuse ourselves with useless trivia about whether 32 minutes 5 days a week is better than 20 minutes 3 days a week. These types of threads are really ways to distract you from actually getting out and doing the work. You say to yourself I don't want to do anything because I might not do it right. It makes no sense. Do you believe that if you were doing 30 minutes instead of 32 minutes and didn't see results it was because of those 2 minutes?

Here is what you should do: go and run on the treadmill for 32 minutes and see how many miles you ran in that time. The next day run the same amount of miles in 31 minutes. The next day 30 minutes. Etc. Once you are down to 20 minutes, you'll be doing the same amount of work in 2/3 time. Then go back and run at the new pace for 32 minutes and see how far you run now. Repeat. That'll burn the weight off you lickity split.
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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-16 8:16 AM (#49747 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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MidPack
Posted 2006-04-16 9:10 AM (#49749 - in reply to #49711)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?


mishoga - 2006-04-15 5:19 PM
Cardio/aerobic activity increases the metabolism.

One of the least effective forms of exercise in this regard though isn't it? Building muscle mass (ie, weightlifting) increases metabolism, cardio mostly burns fat while you're doing it and only increases metabolism to the extent it's a muscle building activity (most forms of cardio, walking, running, treadmills, are relatively poor forms of exercise in that specific regard). At least that's the way I understand it, but I'm no expert.

Edited by MidPack 2006-04-16 9:12 AM
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kulkarnn
Posted 2006-04-16 9:20 AM (#49751 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?


I am grateful to you Yoga Guy! Well said!

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Nick
Posted 2006-04-16 9:22 AM (#49752 - in reply to #49749)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Location: London, England		Hi Midpack,
My understanding is that all exercise burns calories-the emphasis on cardio is valid, in that in order to raise the heart rate, we usually use the large leg muscles-if you were to use your upper body instead, you wouldn;t burn the same amount of calories, or raise the heart rate as high. but you are correct in saying that weights are good for burning calories. i would have thought a good schedule would involve doing cardio to warm up for the weights, and also as a calorie-burning exercise in its own right. The cardio warm up, would also mean that because the metabolic rate is already raised, the weight-training would probably have a greater effect in burning calories. Having said all that, my heart rate probably goes up to 140-150 bpm when I do sun salutes, so it's possible to do it all with yoga.
Take care
Nick
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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-16 9:31 AM (#49756 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Location: right where I'm supposed to be		Working out with wts does increase metabolic rate (also helps maintain bone density in older populations) but it also increases muscle mass. Muscles weigh more than fat. Although you will lose inches, you will not necessarily lose wt.

I'm sure we all know this.

Mish
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tourist
Posted 2006-04-16 10:30 AM (#49761 - in reply to #49756)
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.....and off we go into distractions and details again! I have to say, the loud and abrasive blonde in the 80's had a great point. You have to eat, move and breathe every day. Do those well and you will look and feel better. If counting minutes and calories makes you feel better, fine. Otherwise, do what you like, eat better and go out and play with your friends and family - go to a movie and go dancing. Life is too short, folks!
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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-16 10:33 AM (#49762 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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MidPack - 2006-04-16 9:10 AM

mishoga - 2006-04-15 5:19 PM
Cardio/aerobic activity increases the metabolism.

One of the least effective forms of exercise in this regard though isn't it? Building muscle mass (ie, weightlifting) increases metabolism, cardio mostly burns fat while you're doing it and only increases metabolism to the extent it's a muscle building activity (most forms of cardio, walking, running, treadmills, are relatively poor forms of exercise in that specific regard). At least that's the way I understand it, but I'm no expert.


Well, if you want to sculpt and define you would not choose to only engage the body in cardio. Cardio is good for the heart and to increase metabolism which also stays active for awhile after activity. If consumption of food source is limited the body will metabolize what is avail. If you consume less calories and exercise more, than you will lose wt. It's easy! These are basic guidelines to follow throughout life, not my law

Mish

Edited by mishoga 2006-04-16 10:41 AM
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tourist
Posted 2006-04-16 10:48 AM (#49766 - in reply to #49762)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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 I forget her name but she had all kinds of commercials and books - were they something like "Stop the Insanity"?
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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-16 10:58 AM (#49767 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Location: right where I'm supposed to be		There were so many aerobic junkies in the 80's, it's hard to remember which one is which!

Mishy
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Nick
Posted 2006-04-16 11:59 AM (#49775 - in reply to #49761)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Location: London, England		Hi Glenda,

" Life is too short"-Unless you do cardio!
I agree, it's also hard to suggest an exercise system-one size does not fit all-I mean if, you are good at running, your ability may inspire you to continue. But if you always hate it, then you are more likely to give up-do what you enjoy and do it often!
Nick
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mishoga
Posted 2006-04-16 12:46 PM (#49777 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?



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Nick
Posted 2006-04-16 2:59 PM (#49785 - in reply to #49777)
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mishoga - 2006-04-16 5:46 PM

I think we should all just dance
Mish


Wouldn't the world be a much better place-"you might understand the music a little better if you danced"-David Byrne(talking heads) to a German audience.
Take care
Nick
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LadyCelt
Posted 2006-04-17 1:44 AM (#49810 - in reply to #49689)
Subject: RE: Required Cardio Time?


I think I need to get my knee checked out again and mayve do physical therapy again on it cause I was too out of it on medication that made me real out of it from the hospital when I did it a while back. I"d like to do cardio for 45 minutes each time, but my knee didn't feel too good when I tried Friday.

I try to burn at least 300 calories when I do an elliptical for 36 minutes and try to get at least 2.5 miles in. I know if you're only burning 4 calories a minute you may not do as well as burning 9 a minute etc.

I've tried wearing a heart rate watch but it didn't work too well. The ellptical says my ehartrate after the workout, but my hands aren't on the bars the whole time so I think it may just go by calories per minute at a time.
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Ariel
Posted 2006-06-17 10:04 PM (#56078 - in reply to #49689)
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Her name was Susan Powter.
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bstqltmkr
Posted 2006-06-18 11:11 PM (#56121 - in reply to #49689)
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Hey, I seen Susan Powter in a magazine recently, and guess what, her new workouts include yoga. About working out though, when I used to do aerobics with weights I was ravenously hungry and never lost weight that way. After finding yoga I lost weight without really thinking about it.
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