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Expert Yogi
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What brought me to Purusha Vishesha was simply the statement that
Ishwara is free of karma, which Patanjali states in that sutra, and the
sense that when we free ourselves of karma we become Purusha Vishesha.
Perhaps I have this wrong?
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| Yes Dear Brother BG:
Just by exhausting karma, we do not immediately become Purrusha Vishesha. There is more to that and this is described in the 4th chapter of Sutras. Anyway, after obtaining complete kaivalyam, we do actually become Purushavishesha, but then WE (as before gettting the Kaivalyam) are NOT there anymore. So, the word We does not exist at that time.
Neel Kulkarni
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| Zoe, this is a vegetarian perspective. I'm talking about people actively killing people.
ok, now you've lost me. as in first person killing and for what reasons (deliberate and predictable)? can yu unpack your ideas? |
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Expert Yogi
Posts: 2479
Location: A Blue State | kulkarnn - 2005-10-04 9:52 AM
Yes Dear Brother BG:
Just by exhausting karma, we do not immediately become Purrusha Vishesha. There is more to that and this is described in the 4th chapter of Sutras. Anyway, after obtaining complete kaivalyam, we do actually become Purushavishesha, but then WE (as before gettting the Kaivalyam) are NOT there anymore. So, the word We does not exist at that time.
Neel Kulkarni
www.authenticyoga.org
Okay, so let's think about kaivalyam only. If we reach that state, which is free of karma,
as you've said, we have total non-killing. Doesn't that suggest that if we are aspiring toward
kaivalyam, one of the attributes that we should emulate is total non-killing, just as we
adopt other practices to reach kaivalyam?
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| Dear Brother BG:
Good question, I am proud of you. Yes, your statement is true. But, the missing part is this:
We practice NON-Killing to create NO Karma, so that no new Karma is created, so as to reach towards NO Karma state, and then to Kaivalyam.
But, that is in the sense of Intention behind the Activity. One still has to exhaust the previous karma, which may involve Killing. And, that is the duty of Kshatriya to fight as the karma has already been created.
The problem is that one must do that acitivity without creating new karma, that is only as a duty, as suggested by Shree Krishna to Arjuna.
In Buddhism, NON killing is of utmost important, but eating meat is allowed. Gautam Buddha himself ate meat, as I learn so.
Brother Neel
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