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| I can't eve seem to find a third party candidate (among the many) for whom I would feel good about voting. | |
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| I changed the title on this because I think it is very important that y'all (I'm talking American for you.  ) make sure to vote in your upcoming election. I don't know how much attention Americans pay to Canadian politics - ok, I do. None at all.  And frankly, our recent election was such a snooze, it is no wonder we had the lowest voter turnout since Confederation. So embarrassing and sooooo frustrating! Now it just doesn't feel like we had an election at all except that our country had to spend a ton of money to put the stupid thing on.
Don't let this happen to you! No matter which end of the political spectrum you live on, please make use of your most basic right and vote. Remember, there are people in this world - lots of them - who are dying for the right that we in North America take for granted. | |
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| Seldom if ever do I disagree with Tourist; however, as for U.S. elections, PLEASE, if you don't give a darn and don't know the issues, do NOT vote. Ignorance is bliss--but don't foist that on those who care. | |
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| Well Bruce, I am making a completely valid assumption that yoga.commers are intelligent, thoughtful, politically aware people.  Maybe not the d*mn spammers, but everybody else. | |
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| I have little patience with those who don't vote, claiming that they have no interest in politics and yet then go on to rant about any one or more of a number of 'hot' political topics (the economy, fuel prices, the lack of affordable mortgages, parking restrictions, de yada, yada).
Wake up! People died to give you the right to self-determination. The least any one can do is to get off their fat arse, get educated on the candidates, and go vote!!!!!
Ok, rant over :-)
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Well, if Tourist is right and all you Yoga.comers are intelligent....you'll vote for OBAMA!!
For what it's worth....This Independent voter has recently hooked up with all the democrat ladies in my town. They found my jewlery store. I got some really nice animal jewelry for sale...along with my yard sign, t-shirt and buttons. Still waiting on my car sticker,
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| I agree with Orbilla. I was of the type of NO voting until last year and I apologize for that. Now, i realize that there are ONLY two candidates to choose from, and I must NOT let the WORST get its way in, just like the last election. So, I am going to vote. I am going to Chicago that day for convention, therefore, I am voting in Absence.
There is NO question that this election shall decide where America stands: a) economically b) intelligently c) humanistically and d) internationally.
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| I agree with all of you. It is necessary that everyone with an intelligent, studied opinion get out and vote. To expand on Bruce's point, however, if you haven't thought out the issues, if you think all politicians are useless crooks, even if you cannot in all honesty decide whom to vote for, then do not vote. Don't mess it up for the rest of us who feel deeply about the direction the US is taking.
But those of you who don't vote, don't complain about the state of things, that state is partly your fault.
For those who cannot decide between the two presidential candidates after having considered the issues, at least vote in your local elections. I voted absentee ballot because I live in France but the local issues of my home town are still important to me. Those issues impact directly on our lives, education environment, taxes, health issues. By focusing on local issues, you undecided ones, you may see a way of understand national issues. This may help you reach an intelligent decision about the presidential race.
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| belle - you must go to a pretty sad little church if they only give you a soap box to preach from.
We are having our municipal elections soon and I am not nearly as informed about those candidates as I am about the national ones. And I think in many ways, local politics is more important, so it is time for me to do some research.... | |
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| Hear, hear Belle!
I feel the same way about those that moan about stuff like the council not fixing a pot hole but look at you blankly when you ask if they've told the council it needs doing. Sheesh, do they think there are swathes of council officials out inspecting the streets every day?!
REF "But those of you who don't vote, don't complain about the state of things, that state is partly your fault" -
"The only thing needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke (but he many have been quoting Plato) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Burke
I always look at the stated policies of each of the candidates parties rather than looking at the guys and gals themselves, especially for the national elections. For locals, I do like the candidates to make some effort to tell me about themselves and their policies. At our last council elections, only two parties of the 6 standing sent me any mail at all and only one told me about their candidate. No brainer as to which I voted for.
The UK's general elections see the manifestos of all parties posted on the government's web-site as well as the usual TV stuff. I also check Hansard (Parliament's record of procedure) to see how often my current MP was a) in the house, b) posted a question, c) voted on my behalf. Any MP noticeable by their lack of attendance, or effort on my behalf, loses my vote.
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| France: Where? I am going to Paris in April/May timeframe.
belle vie - 2008-10-20 9:50 AM
I agree with all of you. It is necessary that everyone with an intelligent, studied opinion get out and vote. To expand on Bruce's point, however, if you haven't thought out the issues, if you think all politicians are useless crooks, even if you cannot in all honesty decide whom to vote for, then do not vote. Don't mess it up for the rest of us who feel deeply about the direction the US is taking.
But those of you who don't vote, don't complain about the state of things, that state is partly your fault.
For those who cannot decide between the two presidential candidates after having considered the issues, at least vote in your local elections. I voted absentee ballot because I live in France but the local issues of my home town are still important to me. Those issues impact directly on our lives, education environment, taxes, health issues. By focusing on local issues, you undecided ones, you may see a way of understand national issues. This may help you reach an intelligent decision about the presidential race.
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| I would like to share an article that I enjoyed because it deals with the substance of this election rather character assassination, innuendo and obvious manipulation:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/164498
I also encourage all of you to become informed and vote. There are many big issues at stake in this election that will affect the direction of the global society that we live in. The old answers (both Republican and Democrat) do not fit the current world. We now live in a world where we are all connected and we need new solutions, NOT tired old dogma from another time. America is now part of an ever-increasingly connected world where we (Americans) need to learn how to be a leading member, not a schoolyard bully. We all need to get past ideology and start focusing on pragmatic solutions based on consensus that work for everyone. Become informed and get out and vote for the candidate whose vision and solutions (NOT election year slogans or emotionalism) most agree with your own well thought out positions!
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| Thanks for the link. I agree with what you say about doing your own research and reading before forming an opinion too.
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | I like this article too. He states everything clearly! I also enjoyed watching Maria Shriver on Larry King Live last night. She was great. She also mentioned that her and Arnold did not agree, but she pointed out about how important it was to remain respectful of each other's choices. I liked that alot.
Anyway, I've decided that whoever gets elected, it simply means that our country was not ready for change and that they need more time (even though we don't have much time to play around with) and I am working on accepting whatever the outcome may bee. One thing will be for sure, if McCain is elected, I will not be watching much news. If I have to listen to his voice and watch his body movements, it will drive me CRAZY!!!! I was so hoping that we could have Obama, just to have some stability, discipline, and most importantly....someone with young vibrant "POSITIVE" energy! Oh well..
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| Hello Neel.
I live in the South of France in a tiny village near Montpellier so come on down! I could even get to Paris (what's going on there Yoga wise?). The TGV high speed train gets me to the center of Paris in 3 1/2 hours and if you are really clever on the internet you can get a roundtrip first class ticket for under 100 euros---second class costs 120-170 euros  They throw in the tour through rural France free.
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| One person fom Paris who does astanga style practice was in us and studied with me for 2 weeks. she wnts me to go there in apri-may timeframe. i also have one other person from france. Look 4 Cecil Poyet on my site.
Hello Neel.
I live in the South of France in a tiny village near Montpellier so come on down! I could even get to Paris (what's going on there Yoga wise?). The TGV high speed train gets me to the center of Paris in 3 1/2 hours and if you are really clever on the internet you can get a roundtrip first class ticket for under 100 euros---second class costs 120-170 euros They throw in the tour through rural France free.
Everyone, get out and vote!
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| Given the number of USA e-pals who asked me after 9/11 "Why do they hate us so much?", I
thought the following informed on the mind-set of such terrorists better than many things I've read.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alqaidalinked-website-
backs-mccain-as-president-969224.html
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http://tinyurl.com/6mojdp
This article references SITE. They can be found here : http://www.siteintelgroup.org/
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| Thanks ,Orbilia, that's sooo reassuring  How come McC doesn't use that endorsement in his campaign?
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| *OMG* I'm laughing so had the drool's running down my chin, Belle!
It's kinda always been the man on the street's view in the UK that by reacting in a knee-jerk manner after 9/11, the USA were giving Al Q exactly what they wanted :-(
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Well, I voted early...for OBAMA. Go Tiger, | |
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| I heard last night about some of the intimidation tactics used in swing states - people being told they aren't eligible to vote if they have an unpaid parking ticket, being harassed in the line up to the polls, etc. Unbelievable! The US sends observers to other countries during elections to prevent just that sort of thing. Such a mess! | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Or the McCain devotee who faked an Obama attacker. In my town, the local democrat lady, God bless her soul here in McCain country, drives around with huge Obama signs on her vehicle. Someone pasted McCain stickers on her car. Sooo, I got me an Obama sticker and a yard sign too! Our local Sheriff is Obama all the way, yeehaw!! | |
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| I cancelled Cyndi's vote; sorry kiddo, had to do it. | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Bruce - 2008-10-25 5:22 PM
I cancelled Cyndi's vote; sorry kiddo, had to do it.
No dear...I cancelled yours, and...I got 2 more to back me up, LOL!! | |
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| Someone sent this to me:
While walking down the street one day a famous politician is tragically hit by a truck and dies.
His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.
'Welcome to heaven,' says St. Peter. 'Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts, you see, so we're not sure what to do with you.'
'No problem, just let me in,' says the man.
'Well, I'd like to, but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in hell and one in heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.'
'Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in heaven,' says the senator.
'I'm sorry, but we have our rules.'
And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell. The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a green golf course. In the distance is a clubhouse and standing in front of it are all his friends and other politicians who had worked with him.
Everyone is very happy and in evening dress. They run to greet him, shake his hand, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people.
They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster, caviar and champagne.
Also present is the devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes. They are having such a good time that before he realizes it, it is time to go.
Everyone gives him a hearty farewell and waves while the elevator rises...
The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.
'Now it's time to visit heaven.'
So, 24 hours pass with the senator joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
'Well, then, you've spent a day in hell and another in heaven. Now choose your eternity.'
The senator reflects for a minute, then he answers: 'Well, I would never have said it before, I mean heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in hell.'
So St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to hell.
Now the doors of the elevator open and he's in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage.
He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags as more trash falls from above
The devil comes over to him and puts his arm around his shoulder. 'I don't understand,' stammers the senator. 'Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and clubhouse, and we ate lobster and caviar, drank champagne, and danced and had a great time. Now there's just a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable. What happened?'
The devil looks at him, smiles and says,
'Yesterday we were campaigning...........Today you voted.'
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| I just popped in to bring back this subject and make that phrase appear again in the forum!! | |
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| Today's the day, folks. Be bold, wait in line, do what you need to do!
BTW - there are essentially no line ups to vote in Canada, even in years when we don't have a record low turn out like we just had in the federal election. Another good reason to make a run for the border! | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Interesting email I just received...I'm sharing...this is good stuff!!!
My apologies to Virginia Postrel for borrowing the title of her provocative book for the subject heading of this email...and, yes, I know its late in the game...
But I in so many ways I see the historic decision being made today in these stark terms.
Who do wish to support?
A candidate who has dare to express and articulate a vision of hope for the future...a candidate who has, throughout a long and grueling and often ugly campaign, maintained his composure and continued to express that vision in the face of an onslaught of out and out lies and slander...a candidate who has worked hard to build a coalition of support than seeks to include and empower through a rising tide that truly hopes to raise all boats.
Or is it a candidate and party who have chosen to engage in the ugly politics of lies and deception...engaging in the character assassinations that have sadly become a staple of his party's strategy both for campaigning and for ruling our country...a candidate who, as opposed to articulating a vision of inclusiveness and a bringing together of all of the people who make our country great, has actually sought to divide...to question the patriotism and integrity of those who ask questions and who dare to demand honesty and accountability from their government...a man and party who have sought to manipulate and exploit the ignorant and uneducated through deceit and innuendo to form a coalition with those who seem unable to support anything beyond their own most crude and short term self interests.
As a business owner, community leader or a citizen, I ask you:
Whose campaign has been run with the vision, leadership, and skills that you would want to see in your own company or community?
Whose campaign decision making reflects the decision making acumen that you would like to see in your own business or community?
These are the skills and vision that our country need in these challenging times.
This is about the future.
If you haven't already, please vote today! And ask your friends and co-workers to do as well. | |
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| I'm pretty political, with a small p, so I do spend a lot of time watching our own elections as well as the US one. It still amazes me the length of time your Presedential election takes... the average Brit's pretty much murderous after 6 weeks of election news on every TV channel, let alone 21 months of it!
The following is an excerpt from the memo I sent to a friend this morning :
"Me too. I was thinking only this morning how his [Obama's] oratory style reminds me so much of the clips I've seen of Kennedy. I saw the highlights [of his acceptance speech] this morning but will catch-up with the whole thing later.
From a global perspective, I think your having a President who wants to put diplomacy firmly ahead of warfare is a BIG relief.
I guess the one concern we have about Obama is that he may go further than removing unfair trade tariffs on American businesses and make a return to protectionist policies as these have a nasty habit of back- firing and slowing economic growth. Regardless of who got in, I think you guys have a lot more pain to go through economically as I don't think 4 years is going to be anywhere near long enough for any policy to turn things around completely. We saw it here in Blair's first term. Though we are suffering from having gorged ourselves on debt, I think we may weather the current downturn fairly well as the ground level confidence is still in place. I just wish we had done what the Spanish did in the 80s and put in place regulation that limited irresponsible lending by the financial institutions.
Any way, I'm now going to climb down off this soap-box and open a virtual bottle of bubbly in honour of your new leader!"
Love,
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| May I share that bubbly with you Orbilla if I can ever stop crying. Iwas up all night with the six hour difference, so I am tired and numb.
It's two years of emotion that will take some time to sort itself out. I m still in a state of shock-- ecstatic shock, a dream I never dared dream come true.
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| I bow down to B. Obama, for his victory in this election, as only one in Million can attain such a position.
May god bless him in his tenure.
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| ACtually, I also bow down to Orbilla, because she contributed to opening my eyes to the responsibility of voting.
Orbilia - 2008-11-05 12:40 PM
"Clink"!
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Oh what a Happy Happy Happy Day!!! I'm so Happy...did I say I was happy???
Today was the BEST yoga class ever. Thank you to all who voted and Thank you world for holding the vision of the future. May the world be continually blessed as we move forward.
Cyndi - who's basking in this field of vibrant and incredible energy field,  May it last a very very long time.
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| I'm proud of you, America. Even if Obama turns out to the the worst president ever, and I somehow doubt that will happen, it was about time to do the right thing. Way to go! Now keep up that energy and move into the real work. It is easy to do a few sun salutations while everyone is happy and cheerful and energetic, but you have to dig deep to achieve the 10 minute headstand, the 5th repetition of urdhva dhanurasana, the gut grinding depth of the twists and the humility of the forward bends. You can do it, yes, you can!  | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | You know what?? I'm especially happy that I am FINALLY living in a BLUE state...YEE HAW!!
Tomorrow night I'm going out to a dinner party with the local democrat volunteers...we're gonna rock these mountains in NC, LOL!!
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| I'm glad you ladies are basking in the spirit of delight, meanwhile I want to puke as the Clinton cronies are resurrected from the dead and the stock market continues its plunge...just freaking lovely. | |
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Location: A Blue State | Well.... now folks have some irrefutable evidence that a black man can reach the highest levels in our country. I think it's been a fact for a long time, but maybe now we will get beyond all that old tension...
I still wonder whether he will really be able to deal with the economy. He gives a nice speech, and he was clearly a better choice than McCain. (I still miss Hillary...okay?).
The major result of the recent election is the incomprehensible passage of proposition 8 in California. One day, people will look back in horror at the open acceptance of discrimination against gays. **The people of California should hang their heads in shame.** I am disgusted.
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | It'll bee alright BB, go drink another Guiness, relax and let's have some fun, I personally feel like a big burden has been lifted. Your're right Tourist, my practice just got bumped up on sooo many levels and I like it, alot!!!
Actually, I enjoyed the Clinton years...my business was thriving, I had money...life was pretty good. The last 8 years have really sucked in the financial department...good thing I was focused on my yoga practice and living in the hills. Although....most of us saw it coming when GWB got elected back in 2000 and we planned ahead. Unfortunately, there were those who didn't see it, refused to see it....and they suffered dearly. Then there were those that stayed in denial and have been ever since. What a vicious cycle we've been on.
However, I truly believe that Barack Obama is going to change everything....I mean everything. It's going to be a fun ride. I just love his energy. He is soo peaceful and refreshing!.....he is rock solid.
Yes we can......and YES, WE DID. Yippie!!! | |
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| Bruce - I'm no economist and I really don't debate politics, but I truly believe the markets are going to keep flailing about no matter who is in charge. We North Americans have to understand that it is all much bigger than us now. The whole world is in on this game and no longer runs on what is happening minute by minute in the US. The Chinese may not be able to access porn or music from the US, but they are in the money markets big time and in spite of the minor blip historically of the communist years, finance is something they are very, very good at. Frankly, we should probably all be afraid of China much more than any of our individual politicians.
I liked that Obama promised his kids a puppy - small payment for them to live through this whole, LONG campaign . | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | and yes, let me please reiterate yet again, that Obama's peaceful attitude and his peaceful everything...is soo refreshing. I was ready to pack my bags for Costa Rica if the repulican party had won. I just could not listen to their voices any longer, it was making me literally sick. I think yesterday's vote was a clear message of how we are feeling. I'm proud to be an American again.
The puppy.....I wish I could live in the White House with them....can you imagine how cool that would bee.
and China.....that's a freaky thing to think about, ask the Tibetans, they'll tell ya. For what its worth....the Asian community....the Nepalis, the Tibetans....the Peruvians in South America...just to name a few out of sooo many, supported Obama all the way...amazing. | |
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| it is so true, cyndi!
it ws interesting--as i was nursing hawk on another of his marathons (he LOVES these 3-4 hr nursing sessions with burp and potty breaks, then RIGHT BACK ON, LADY! IT'S ME! HAWK!) and i was watching a good deal of news coverage.
anyway, i noticed that we have a lot of wars going on. the war in afghanistan, the war in iraq, the war on terror, the fight or war against cancer, the war on drugs. . . .
interesting that so much of our lives are--at least at the level of language--focused on war.
to use the language of "the secret" (and i noticed Obama did quite a bit--he would say "when i'm in office" more often than "if i'm elected" etc), i wonder if we all turned the language a bit what would happen.
what if the "war on cancer" became the "path to vibrant health!" and the "war on drugs" was the "acting in joyous wellbeing!" and what if the "war on terror" was the "peaceful mind project!"
yeah, seriously, i think having an orator in office is probably one of the greatest things for america. i mean, a man who can write such heart-felt and speak them so well. . .who undrstands the language of positivity. . .
well, there might just be some changes around here! | |
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | Okay I'm bumping this thread so I can read what ZB says, | |
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| A certain lass across the state from you is crying into her wine, Cyndi. She's bought the terrorist slurs wholescale.
I think his girls are so cute by the way!
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Cyndi - 2008-11-06 12:31 AM
You know what?? I'm especially happy that I am FINALLY living in a BLUE state...YEE HAW!!
Tomorrow night I'm going out to a dinner party with the local democrat volunteers...we're gonna rock these mountains in NC, LOL!!
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Location: Somewhere in the Mountains of Western NC | My sister sent me her high school boyfriend's republican blog, from Colorado. I could not believe it...much less comprehend that this so called Christian could say the things he said. Talk about terrorism...I don't understand how if your're a republican, it's okay to have terrorists thoughts and that much hatred. It's so ridiculous.
Oh well, evil comes in many forms. Like I've said along...they're wolves in sheep's clothing.
BUT, they've been exposed. It doesn't matter now, the world has spoken. It's time to evolve into something much greater. I wish everyone peace, because there is so much work to be done. Obama himself told everybody, "I'm not going to be the perfect president". If everyone would pull together, we have the potential to create an incredible American life. This crap about being a republican and democrat is BS....I voted for the person, not the party. Always remember, UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE WILL SURELY FAIL!!
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| zoebird - 2008-11-06 2:29 PM
anyway, i noticed that we have a lot of wars going on. the war in afghanistan, the war in iraq, the war on terror, the fight or war against cancer, the war on drugs. . . .
interesting that so much of our lives are--at least at the level of language--focused on war.
to use the language of "the secret" (and i noticed Obama did quite a bit--he would say "when i'm in office" more often than "if i'm elected" etc), i wonder if we all turned the language a bit what would happen.
what if the "war on cancer" became the "path to vibrant health!" and the "war on drugs" was the "acting in joyous wellbeing!" and what if the "war on terror" was the "peaceful mind project!"
yeah, seriously, i think having an orator in office is probably one of the greatest things for america. i mean, a man who can write such heart-felt and speak them so well. . .who undrstands the language of positivity. . .
well, there might just be some changes around here!
I totally agree that we need to stop fighting the things that we don't like and start encouraging and working for the things that we actually want. At the same time we must be careful that we don't just start playing with the words (like Reagan's "Peacekeeper" missile) instead a making an actual paradigm shift. Changing the symbol (word) for something does not change the underlying thing that that symbol (word) is a symbol for. Unfortunately, it is easy to get people to come together AGAINST something. It requires real leadership to get people to come together FOR something. | |
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but, i have to admit, whenever october comes around, our yoga studio talks about "breast health initiatives" rather than "fighting breast cancer." i don't think that this is playing with words or symbols at all. we're just consciously choosing to work *for* something and not call something else into our lives.
also, in speaking about the new puppy, the girls originally wanted a pure breed, apparently, but obama asserted that a shelter dog would be nice. at one point, he said something like "a mutt like me." and i thought--what a wonderful, peaceful way of teaching about acceptance and diversity. | |
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| We have a lot of "Cops for Cancer" things in Canada. I think it really needs to be "Cops against Cancer." It irks me... | |
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| I saw a TV programme about China's economy last night and how the US and Chinese economies are so thightly linked.....70% of America's assets are in Chinese ownership once you trace back though all those multiple layers of borrowing and shell companies. Chinese people save, on average, 50% of their minute incomes as they are scared to death about falling ill or getting old as there is no state help whatsoever. It's these savings that are paying for all that credit in the USA. Without it, America would be bankrupt several times over - In the last year Americans have spent $1.22 for every $1.00 earned.
I would guess a similar story can be told about many western countries. Until we all re-learn to save more than we spend, we will continue to be vulnerable to the vagueries of the market.
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Edited by Orbilia 2008-11-10 6:11 AM
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