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| I wrote this a week ago elsewhere, but didnt get much info. I would like yalls thoughts on this since this is specifically a kundalini yoga forum.:
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I did some Kundalini Yoga last night for the first time. Here is what I had written about it. Let me know yalls thoughts:
HOLY ****!
I just did 10 minutes of Kundalini Yoga and had to stop cuz I wasnt sure if something bad was gonna happen, it was that intense.. ON THE FIRST TIME!
I was watching the video Introduction to Kundalini Yoga by Mantra Girl.
Man that was INTENSE! First couple minutes was like "I hope i feel atleast a tingling" Then I felt the tingling. Then it got stronger and turned into a RUMBLING sensation. Then It felt like my hands were getting STUCK. Like I couldnt move the fingers and at this point I decided to stop because I was afraid I would be STUCK and unable to move. So it took a few minutes for it to calm down, at this point i tried closing my hands and they kept wanting to SHOOT OPEN. A few minutes later i was able to start typing and I could feel energy radiating off my ringertips onto the keyboard.
The most ive ever felt from mediations is the tingling, but this was WAY more than that.
Has anyone done Kundalini Yoga? Are there any dangers? Could you explain what I experienced? Have you experienced anything similar?
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Edited by Refrusloi 2007-04-10 11:24 AM
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| Refrusloi - 2007-04-10 11:24 AM
I wrote this a week ago elsewhere, but didnt get much info. I would like yalls thoughts on this since this is specifically a kundalini yoga forum.:
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I did some Kundalini Yoga last night for the first time. Here is what I had written about it. Let me know yalls thoughts:
HOLY ****!
I just did 10 minutes of Kundalini Yoga and had to stop cuz I wasnt sure if something bad was gonna happen, it was that intense.. ON THE FIRST TIME!
I was watching the video Introduction to Kundalini Yoga by Mantra Girl.
Man that was INTENSE! First couple minutes was like "I hope i feel atleast a tingling" Then I felt the tingling. Then it got stronger and turned into a RUMBLING sensation. Then It felt like my hands were getting STUCK. Like I couldnt move the fingers and at this point I decided to stop because I was afraid I would be STUCK and unable to move. So it took a few minutes for it to calm down, at this point i tried closing my hands and they kept wanting to SHOOT OPEN. A few minutes later i was able to start typing and I could feel energy radiating off my ringertips onto the keyboard.
The most ive ever felt from mediations is the tingling, but this was WAY more than that.
Has anyone done Kundalini Yoga? Are there any dangers? Could you explain what I experienced? Have you experienced anything similar?
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Danger for You is doing it from Video, and not from instruction with Teacher. | |
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| I dont know where I would find a teacher in South Carolina though..?? | |
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| Refrusloi - 2007-04-10 1:43 PM
I dont know where I would find a teacher in South Carolina though..??
Send me tickets and I shall come there. | |
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| Go to http://www.3ho.org/ and click the link on the left for Teachers' Directory, maybe you'll find someone close to where you live. Or go see Neel. I would if I were geographically close enough! But by all means, find a teacher to work with. Kundalini can be really dangerous stuff. Good luck.
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| In other words:
" For those who want Kundalini to be raised up, they should first learn how to lower Kundanlini Down. That means do not enter the dark room without torch in hand."
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| Refrusloi - 2007-04-10 10:24 AM
I wrote this a week ago elsewhere, but didnt get much info. I would like yalls thoughts on this since this is specifically a kundalini yoga forum.:
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I did some Kundalini Yoga last night for the first time. Here is what I had written about it. Let me know yalls thoughts:
HOLY ****!
I just did 10 minutes of Kundalini Yoga and had to stop cuz I wasnt sure if something bad was gonna happen, it was that intense.. ON THE FIRST TIME!
I was watching the video Introduction to Kundalini Yoga by Mantra Girl.
Man that was INTENSE! First couple minutes was like "I hope i feel atleast a tingling" Then I felt the tingling. Then it got stronger and turned into a RUMBLING sensation. Then It felt like my hands were getting STUCK. Like I couldnt move the fingers and at this point I decided to stop because I was afraid I would be STUCK and unable to move. So it took a few minutes for it to calm down, at this point i tried closing my hands and they kept wanting to SHOOT OPEN. A few minutes later i was able to start typing and I could feel energy radiating off my ringertips onto the keyboard.
The most ive ever felt from mediations is the tingling, but this was WAY more than that.
Has anyone done Kundalini Yoga? Are there any dangers? Could you explain what I experienced? Have you experienced anything similar?
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>> Has anyone done Kundalini Yoga?
Yes. I am practicing for the last 12 years. Recently my book on the same subject got published.
>> Are there any dangers?
If you jump into a river without learning to swim that is dangerous. If you jump in a river after learning to swim you enjoy the experience. It is the same thing with Kundalini Yoga. It can be dangerous if you don't learn and practice it properly. From my experience of 12 years I can confirm that if you practice it correctly it can give you wonderful results.
>> Could you explain what I experienced?
It is rare that one gets his/her Kundalini activited just during a practice of 10 minutes. There are cases when people felt tingling sensation just after reading about it in books. It is recommented to seek a KY teacher if you can't figure out yourself. It is common belief that tingling sensation is indication of Kundalini awakening. Though it is one of the symptoms of awakening more commonly this indicates purification of Prana than Kyndalini flow itself. People feel that awakening Kundalini is the final destination. This is a not true. In fact awakening of Kundalini is just a beginning. The real treasure is afterwards.
>> Have you experienced anything similar?
No comments. I never share my experiences of awakening with others. Sorry about that.
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| Sorry, I missed one more thing. I do recommend Bipinji's book. It is small, concise, and NO humbug.
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| this is the closest I found:
Susan Pannier-Cass Mt Pleasant 843-971-5154 spcrossi@aol.com
Anyone know anything about her?It says she has Teaching Specialties
KRI Certified Kundalini Yoga Teacher
How do you know if they are a good teacher or not??
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| That is a very good question. How to know good teacher:
a) First you have to be a good student to find a good teacher. Good student means: you must know what you want out of Yoga. And, you must have time/persistence/etc. to do what it takes to obtain that.
b) Then, you must verify that the teacher you want to choose can actually give you what you want. If they can not you should not waste your time and their time.
c) If you find the teacher whom you believe to give what you want, you must obey that teacher. If you can not obey, then do not go them.
d) After obeying, the teacher should tell you certain results to come in certain time. If they do not come, leave the teacher. If you do not do the practice, do not ask any question.
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| http://www.yogatech.com/bios/guruprem.html
http://www.spiritvoyage.com/shopping/detail.cfm?sku=BKS-009062
a particularly insightful teacher. And this is not an advertisement. Best wishes. | |
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| Hi Cerise,
I thought you were coming back to Dubai soon?
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| cerise - 2007-04-28 6:48 PM
http://www.yogatech.com/bios/guruprem.html
http://www.spiritvoyage.com/shopping/detail.cfm?sku=BKS-009062
a particularly insightful teacher. And this is not an advertisement. Best wishes.
I'm always curious when Western ladies (like in the above thread) who convert to Sikkism or teach Kundalini Yoga start to wear a Turban. | |
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| jonnie - 2007-04-28 9:29 PM
cerise - 2007-04-28 6:48 PM
http://www.yogatech.com/bios/guruprem.html
http://www.spiritvoyage.com/shopping/detail.cfm?sku=BKS-009062
a particularly insightful teacher. And this is not an advertisement. Best wishes.
I'm always curious when Western ladies (like in the above thread ) who convert to Sikkism or teach Kundalini Yoga start to wear a Turban.
Just to clarify my above observation. I am refering to Guru Rattana and not you Cerise.
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| Me too. I had no idea Sikh women ever wore the turban. We had a large Sikh population where I grew up and I always though the men looked very distinguished in their turbans. A lot of them were also intensely good looking, as I recall. | |
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| Hi Tourist,
Yes, that's my point. In the Sikh religion, all men must wear turbans as a religious obligation, but the women, never.
In Dubai (which has a very larger Indian population) I have a good Sikh friend from Beas, who ever since I've known him has had a shaved head.
When I asked him why he never wears a turban, he told me laughingly that if God was worried about the length of his hair, then he was following the wrong God | |
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| I like that, jonnie! While some cultural/religious practices are really health related - taking shoes off indoors, for example - I think that many outward practices, from turbans to Om tattoos are reminders to ourselves to keep the Divine in our hearts and minds. God is much more of a big picture guy  | |
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| tourist - 2007-04-27 7:18 PM
Me too. I had no idea Sikh women ever wore the turban. We had a large Sikh population where I grew up and I always though the men looked very distinguished in their turbans. A lot of them were also intensely good looking, as I recall.
yes Dear Tourist, Sikh women can be stunningly beautiful. 
No Dear Tourist: Sometimes, Sikh women actually wear Turban in Punjab. That number is very low. And, those who wear turban look less beautiful than those who wear the scarf.
I have personally no problems with men or women wearing a turban. But they must clearly state that they are wearing it because they are Sikh, and should not confuse that with Yoga, or Kundalini Yoga, or whatever Yoga. | |
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| Neel - would a woman wearing a turban be a choice by that woman that she has made for herself or would it be a result of taking certain vows or being initiated into some particular order? I suppose if it is unusual to see int Punjab, it is not surprising that we find the image of a woman, especially a western woman, a bit odd. | |
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| tourist - 2007-04-29 10:32 AM
Neel - would a woman wearing a turban be a choice by that woman that she has made for herself or would it be a result of taking certain vows or being initiated into some particular order? I suppose if it is unusual to see int Punjab, it is not surprising that we find the image of a woman, especially a western woman, a bit odd.
Good question SisTourist: In Punjab, a woman rarely wears turban, she will generally wear a beautiful scarf. When she wears turban, it is not a part of any vow, it is due to a family tradition she will be married into. Even then, she has a choice of scarf and no turban.
In West, however, Turban wearing is by that ladies choice, but additionally to symbolize the Kundalini Yoga connection or even I may say vows, whereas it is connection with Sikhism. | |
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| Hi Jonnie,
I understood, no turban on my head ! Yes, Dubai, but not yet, I did not fly back in March as planned. If you know a prayer that make people who love the UAE fly back to Dubai, please, use it  .
My father got ill and I need to be here for the moment.
As far as turban, shawls etc., the other posts comment it all. To me, a Sikh turban on a Westerner does not look so appealing, on Sikhs it really does, I think. On a lady, it looks a bit odd but why not if it makes her happy. I never associated kundalini yoga which is yoga with thewhite hats and white clothes. The idea is just to learn something, it is true that with kundlaini yoga, the teacher is often in white ... white like the beautiful dish-dashas 
Through your posts, I understood that you are awaiting a happy event soon. Best wishes to all the family.
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| Hi Cerise
I'm sorry to hear about your father, I hope he'll be ok.
Yes, Nisrine will be giving birth in a couple of weeks from now....
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| I hope that I had bit experience with something like Kundalini many years ago. After long practice of intensive pranayama, I began to feel warming and orgasmic feelings in the bottom of the spinal cord. If I elevated this feeling inside the spinal cord to the brain, orgasm increased, the body began to shake and cave in back. Orgasm spilled in the brain and mindless was easily maintained. Unfortunately, my body was not ready for this practice. Because the spinal cord was very excited (connection between Mooladhara and Sahasrara), I got problems with the stomach and stopped it. Currently, I can easily recover this condition but avoid to do it.
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| Frankly, I sometimes used spreading this feeling inside the bones to energize muscles and get light body in Tai Chi and Hing Yi. Tai Chi has similar practice, condensing breathing into bones and whole skeleton. It may give similar results. | |
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| In West, however, Turban wearing is by that ladies choice, but additionally to symbolize the Kundalini Yoga connection or even I may say vows, whereas it is connection with Sikhism. Jumping in on an old thread...I don't know this first-hand but have heard that the turban is worn by Kundalini yogi and yoginis to keep the energy from escaping through their heads. This may be more symbolic than physical. | |
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| Hi,
Ive been doing kundalini yoga for 1/2 year now. It's not so much the physical problems that I have had. But rather the more major life changing ones. Like partner, job, location changes. Plus getting depressed and working through that.
During the practice itself, the most experience is a light tingling sensation through out the body. Otherwise its usually dizzyness and a slight quezyness like you've just drank some slightly off milk. I do have a teacher though. Which really helps. My teacher has many great techniques which make the symptoms much more bearable. And also helps to make really good habits, as i'm constantly being corrected of my breathing and posture. I'll learn...
On a side note I've also heard of turban wearing for the same reason of keeping the energy from escaping through the heads. Don't know for sure though.
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| Kundalini yoga has absolutely nothing to do with the Sikh religion. Yogi Bhajan, an American cult leader of Indian origin, started a cult that mixed parts of the Sikh religion with Kundalini yoga. He was famous for both the multitude of sexual relations with young female followers and his irregular financial dealings. Most Sikh people do not consider him part of their faith.
Sikh MEN wear a turban because it is part of the 5 K's that every devout Sikh follows. The 5 K's for men (only) are:
Kesh – long and uncut hair and a turban to protect the hair on the head.
Kanga – small comb to be used twice daily to keep the hair in clean and healthy condition.
Kaccha – underwear in the form of shorts to exercise self-control.
Kara – a steel slave bangle on the dominant arm to remind the Sikh to always remember the Guru (founder of Sikhism) before undertaking any action.
Kirpan – a short, often dagger-sized sword to remind the Sikh that he is to defend against repression of the weak.
Sikhs are against any form of the occult and would therefore be against kundalini yoga, which is an occult Hindu practice. Although Sikhs meditate, they do not (as a general rule) practice yoga. Sikh practices are simple, emphasizing a disciplined life engaged in meditation on God's name, living a honest life as a house-holder and sharing what one has with the community. This translates into hard work, honest living, love of fellow humans and through them service to God. This way of life is said to have been stripped of complications, myths, jargon, rituals and exploitation of man by man in the name of religion. The Sikh religion was started in the Punjab, India in the 1500's to bridge the Moslem and Hindu faiths and stop the violence between these two faiths that unfortunately continues to this day.
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Kundalini yoga has absolutely nothing to do with the Sikh religion. Yogi Bhajan, an American cult leader of Indian origin, started a cult that mixed parts of the Sikh religion with Kundalini yoga. He was famous for both the multitude of sexual relations with young female followers and his irregular financial dealings. Most Sikh people do not consider him part of their faith.
Sikh MEN wear a turban because it is part of the 5 K's that every devout Sikh follows. The 5 K's for men (only) are:
Kesh – long and uncut hair and a turban to protect the hair on the head.
Kanga – small comb to be used twice daily to keep the hair in clean and healthy condition.
Kaccha – underwear in the form of shorts to exercise self-control.
Kara – a steel slave bangle on the dominant arm to remind the Sikh to always remember the Guru (founder of Sikhism) before undertaking any action.
Kirpan – a short, often dagger-sized sword to remind the Sikh that he is to defend against repression of the weak.
Sikhs are against any form of the occult and would therefore be against kundalini yoga, which is an occult Hindu practice. Although Sikhs meditate, they do not (as a general rule) practice yoga. Sikh practices are simple, emphasizing a disciplined life engaged in meditation on God's name, living a honest life as a house-holder and sharing what one has with the community. This translates into hard work, honest living, love of fellow humans and through them service to God. This way of life is said to have been stripped of complications, myths, jargon, rituals and exploitation of man by man in the name of religion. The Sikh religion was started in the Punjab, India in the 1500's to bridge the Moslem and Hindu faiths and stop the violence between these two faiths that unfortunately continues to this day.
WGJKK WGJKF,
As a Sikh I feel I have to set the record straight on this. Gurmukh wears a Dastaar because she is has taken Amrit and adheres to the Amrit Reht which is is a code of conduct for any Sikh who wishes to be baptized into the Khalsa Panth, including females; because Sikhism does not accept Caste or Gender discrimination. If a woman wished to take Amrit then they accept the guidelines that were set by Guru Gobind Singh, our Tenth Guru. Covering of the head was not a requiremnt before Guru Ji, but to be a part of the Khalsa Panth it is. 3Ho and Sikhism are often blurred but not the same.
The 5 K's are not only for men, but for woman as well. Most Sikhs, even if they trim thier hair, often wear a Kara on their wrist, but if Amrit is taken then there is no option. Sorry ladies, no shaving legs or plucking allowed either!
Many Sikh's choose to not wear Dastaar and to trim in order to fit in Western culture, and this is a touchy subject for the Sikh Diaspora and will not be remedied on this forum. This is each persons choice, of how they will worship and what precepts one want's to follow; and that is why Amrit was first administered, to see who's convictions were strong enough to lay there head down to the Guru. It is a choice not to be tsaken lightly. Many woman proudly adorned Dastaars and accounts can be read in the Sikh stories of the Dastaared woman who fought alongside their men in battle when gold and treasure were the reward for bringing back a Sikh's head...
So typically , no we don't often see Punjabi Sikh women wearing Dastaars these days in the U.S.. My question then are they Armritdari?
Also without getting into the he said, she said game, we only have stories of what went on with Yogi Bhajan. These accusers also have back stories. The 60's were a turbulent time with lot's of drugs and disfunction to go round. Runaways, drugged out youth were often the first followers of these teaches. Lot's of dysfunction, much like the the dysfunction that surround the groupie circles in music, and believe it some woman are attracted to there teachers. A common happening with anyone that is in authority. Feelings get hurt, jealosy and bang add in some unstability due to being a runaway or having unresolved issues with parents, relationships, drugs or whatever. Remember the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was discredited by John Lennon much the same way, until before his passing George saddened by not setting the record strait made ammends with the Maharishi and McCarntey also went on record that these were untrueths. Ironic that McCartney's ex-wife made alligations against him. Ironic? My point is that if we were not there then we just don't have facts to substantiate an alligation. It's wreckless and irresponsable. And alligations many times have motive. No one really knows, for every story there is a story about them. BUT we can choose to devalue anything we may have learned or that this man gave us because we heard or read a story. Sure, We could do that. However I've learned that by doing so we spite ourseves, deprive ourselves and become cynical.
In regards to Yogi Bhajan, I've never heard anyone in my Panth say anything bad about him and there are no Gora, or white Sikhs worshipping there. Understand , he is not a Guru. That is a label others may tag on him but, the lectures I have heard I've never heard anything that remotely sets him up as anything such as a Guru, but a Yoga Teacher that brought Sikh Dharma to the West. Nothing more , nothing less. Not a Guru in the Sikh lineage, which is impossible anyway. Yoga and Sikhism are two seperate things Yogi Bhajan brought here, and can be taken seperately.
Guru Nanak did not invent the "Sikhism" to end fueding of the Hindu and Muslum cultures or to synthesesize them. Guru Ji looked for common threads that are Universal to all people period and to exclude the nonsense that prevailed such as Rituals, superstitions, castes and discrimination etc. The SGGS is over 1400 pages and cannot even be scratched upon. Learning Gurbani is the best way.
One last thing, Yoga as an exercise, to clear the mind and strenthen the body is documented by the Sikh Guru's. Yoga done to garner power is not. Again these distinctions have to be made by way of definition of the terms they are describing and by people of Sikh faith; and is usually done be the individual, however the Sikh Reht does not prohibit Yoga as is practised my us, non Sadhu's.
Now, this thread was supposed to be a query on Kundalini experiences...
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| Thanks terrapin. That was very informative! I didn't know that Sikhs don't follow the caste system. The East Indian community where I grew up was largely Punjabi Sikh, though I did not understand that as a child, for course. I'm sure the adults around me were pretty ignorant of it as well. I always admired the men's turbans, the women's beautifully coloured clothes and the quiet dignity and strength they seemed to have. Funny impressions a child retains into adulthood! | |
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