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| I was just wondering if any of you have heard of Tony Sanchez and his Yoga Challenge series? I know he studied under Bikram and that his Yoga Challenge I includes all of the 26 Bikram asanas plus some he has added. Do you think his book and/or video would be a good supplement for Bikram classes? I bought the poster already.  |
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| Does he have a poster with all the poses, holding time and breathing? |
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| Vero - I just received the poster last night and I didn't get a chance to look at all the details. It does have pictures of all the asanas but I'm pretty sure it does not have the timing or breathing info.
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| Yes. He's pretty darn cool. There was a post a while back, someone looking for a Bikram video, and I recommended Tony's website.
Tony Sanchez studied with Bikram but also (I think) studied with Bikram's guru, Bishnu Gosh at Gosh College of India. There was an interesting article in Yoga Journal some months back regarding his relationship with Bikram as it stands today. It may be in their archives online.
I'm not sure where you purchased the poster, but if you look at his website (I think it's USYOGA.COM) there is more. He has a book and videos and is very into working with children. I would recommend the videos only to people who have taken several Bikram classes because there is very little instruction.
The first video is very similar to Bikram with a few added postures. It is very good. The second, Yoga Challenge II, is more advanced and is also very good. I haven't seen or tried the remaining videos, but I can only imagine they are for very advanced students.
When you watch the videos, you'll notice immediately the difference between him & Bikram -- he's very quiet with much less detail in the poses. It's a nice relief if you sometimes tire of the endless patter of dialogue  I have a friend who has attended his classes in SanFrancisco -- she says he is awesome but says very little in class. Just tells people what pose to go into and then walks around to prompt people individually as needed.
I'm very interested in acquiring the book as I have not seen it yet.
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| Gwyn,
Yes, I have checked out his website. I wish I could locate that article you mentioned because I was curious as to what his current relationship with Bikram is like. I did a search on the yogajournal website but didn't see that particular article.
Anyway, I bought my poster from yogalifestyle.com which also has a lot of cool stuff. They had another Yoga Chakra poster that I got - very colorful and lots of info (haven't read it all yet).
I'm thinking of getting the Sanchez book just to check it out - it's pretty cheap anyway. I just wondered if anybody else was familiar with the book, if it just repeated what the Bikram book says or if it puts another slant on things?
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| I would guess there would be a different slant, based on his style.
I'll look around and see if I have the Yoga Journal hanging around here and let you know what issue it is. Maybe I can send you a copy of it or something. |
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| About the article, I remember reading that they were still speaking to one another until he came out with his videos. He credits Bikram on the videos.
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| Gwyn - Thanks for offering to check on that article. I recently subcribed to the magazine but missed out on some earlier stuff. They have a pretty extensive website but I also tried to find the recent article about Bikram's franchising and could not find that either. So, I sent them an e-mail requesting a copy of it by e-mail or somehow and they never responded. I know I can purchase past issues but they are pretty pricey if all you are interested in is one article.  |
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| I can't believe I can't find that stinking article. My better half must have thrown it out! I did find, however, the one on franchising. Do you have a fax?
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| Eureka!
Check out: http://www.yogajournal.com/views/327_1.cfm?ctsrc=rel638
That is one of the interviews. There is another where they talk about teachers and their gurus. I'll see if I can find it.
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| Thanks Gwyn - sent you a private message with fax #.
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| Yeah - I read the one you pointed to above. |
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| Can't find the other article but found this comment from an interview:
"Being in L.A., having all his cars, having all those people around him, has changed him," said Tony Sanchez, a yogi in San Francisco who studied with Choudhury and has a copyrighted yoga system of his own. "Underneath all that, though, I think he is a very pure, a very simple, and a very beautiful person."
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| Hey Kathy Ann
This is very interesting, 'cause I had never heard of a brikram poster before but when I stated with the book I made a poster like that myself. I made a copy of the pictures in the book , cut them out, paste them on a poster size cardboard, along with the name of the pose the "hold" time and the breathing. And that helped me out a lot. I guess great minds do think alike 
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| Hi Vero,
Wow! That is really cool that you created your own poster like that. That means you can't give up Bikram! (I read on the other thread that you were going to quit.) |
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| Thank you, Kathy Ann. I think maybe I was too hasty, I'll go back and just skip that pose.
Thanks again for your support.
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| Go Ve-ro, Go Ve-ro! Yea! |
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| Interestingly enough, in my conversation via email with T. Sanchez regarding using his material for my site? He insists his asanas are not "Bikram." However, there are pretty much no differences between those they both use.
I think Tony Sanchez has a more yogic viewpoint on what he does, but again owning and copyrighting yoga? Pleeeeze.
When we're all dead and gone, trademarks and capitalism an ugly myth, the yoga will still go on.
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| The primary difference between Tony and Bikram is common sense. Tony still does yoga the way Bikram did it in the 1970's, when Tony studied with him. Since then, Bikram has turned up the heat and come to emphasize force, endurance, etc, far more than he did in his youth. Standing-head-to-knee is a good example. Where Bikram has everyone locking out the the knee (solid, one piece, concrete, like a lamp-post), Tony will tell you that you can keep a slight bend to prevent hyperextension. Further, Tony doesn't have you stand there for a full minute in set one, prior to bringing the head to the knee. He goes for the leg extension quickly, followed by forehead to knee quickly. The result is that you aren't going to blow out your knee trying to show how tough you are. It's the same story with the heat. Tony keeps his studio cooler, maybe 85 or so. Bikram has his studios racheted up to sauna levels (since Bikram no longer practices yoga, that's not a big deal for him).
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| I doubt that's something Tony would say to a stranger, but I have to concurr with what I've read and found said by others who have studied with him.
Interestingly enough, I experienced Bikram probaly 15 years ago now. Wow, time flies. Anyway, it was definitely a different attitude when he was looking for clients and yoga hadn't boomed yet.
Knees: did you read the NY Times article?
Also, I teach Special Conditions. I can spek from personal experience in that knees are the primary injury that people bring to me, unless they simply go home and don't see anyone else. Shoulders are a close second with lower backs. The Bikram so-called "Beginning yoga" is not kind to either.
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| Wow, I never thought hyper-extending the knee was a good idea. I'm not sure I'll ever make the full posture because of the whole knee locking debate. Is it possible to master this posture with a slightly bent knee? |
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| Yes.
However, not in the way you're thinking. The important element of all standing postures is naturally your foundation. This includes the soles of your feet up to your hip sockets. You need a straight leg. People try to balance by bending the leg, which defeats both purposes.
So if you think of hyperextension as a bent leg, it's another reason it's a no-go in yoga. It's just bending the wrong way.
To get that softness in the knee that protects the tendons, etc., simply lift your toes. They might not come up, but the action/energy is usually enough to keep you from hyperextending. It also energizes the muscles all the way up the front and back of the leg, which gives you that firm foundation you should have.
Give 'er a try. I do my postures with my little and big to down with the three in the middle lifted sometimes. It gets me squarely on all "four corners" of my foot and a nice, solid foundation with very active legs. My caluses have even moved from the middle of my foot (high-heel days) to the outer edges of my feet because of this. Of course, because of yoga and toe exercises, my feet are more in their natural state, which also means broader. I had to give up my high heels because I can't FIT IN 'EM ANYMORE! (That yell was at my teacher and mentor, whom I blame. Or should I say credit?)
There are a lot of yoga party tricks that can help make Bikram much more safe and usually more enjoyable. Unfortunately, the teachers are normally untrained in these tiny details, and beginners have no way of intuitively knowing them. We're not intuitive with our bodies all too frequently.
So if we can help, ask away!
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| RE: KNEE INJURY IN BIKRAM.
I practice Bikram in AUstralia and it has been such a beautiful yoga community there. very supportive and loads of fun. Previous to Bikram I practiced ashtanga, but found the padmasana variations too strong for my knees. Bikram has been one of the best ways to get the blood pumping and come into a great head space with my breath. I used to be a runner as well . and the knees have been very greatful for the time off of the pavement pounding.
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| Hi Folks,
As to the Tony Sanchez posters, there are two. One is the 84 classic asanas as taught by Bishnu Ghosh. I think Tony is one of the few people in the world who can do them all.  The second is the Yoga Challenge One poster which is similar to Bikram with a few of Tony's variations. I carry the posters, plus Tony's videos and some books that Tony and his wife use to train teacher's in California to teach yoga. For more info try this link www.yogalifestyle.com . I've noticed a pickup in sales on Tony's items lately and maybe that previous post that mentioned my site is why. Thank you.
By the way, we just recieved the Yoga Challenge One DVDs today and I hope to have them on the site some time this weekend. Also we will be laminating the 84 Classic Asanas poster for durability and to enhance the colors ( it really makes them pop)
Thanks for your interest.
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| Sorry the link does not work so you'll have to copy and paste
www.yogalifestyle.com
Peace Out,
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| I had been (emphasis on "had") an avid Bikram student for 8 years - we're talking 5 times a week on average. Having a chronic back injury from my days in Colorado, this was one of the things that was keeping me from going under the knife. As time went by, I found myself developing a "love/hate" relationship with Bikram yoga mainly as a result of militant teachers who would chase me out of class telling me to get back in the room when I would step out to get a breath of oxygen that was lacking in the 130 degree room (humidity included). I then developed an injury in my groin that NONE of the instructors could tell me what to do, nor did they offer any suggestions of modifications in my practice - they simply told me to accept the fact that I was injured and to take a 3 month break. I decided to go back to Tony as I had been to a class of his years prior. I told him my condition and told him that I probably shouldn't be practicing because of my injury and he quickly interupted me and told me that's not the case, come to class and I'll have you pain free in 6 weeks. 6 weeks later - eerily to the date - I was pain free. Since this time - close to a year - I have made several breakthroughs with Tony's teachings both with my back and my knowledge on what's better for you. Tony teaches 3 different sequences of postures in his levels I, II, III - all derived from the original 84 Hatha postures. His Yoga Challenge I series is 'similar' to the sequence that Bikram teaches, HOWEVER - he teaches the postures as they were originally created - in their original form - focusing primarily on alignment AND allowing and encouraging modifications for injuries. This means no hyperextension of the knee, no squeezing/contracting your butt muscles in half moon series/camel as it restricts the oxygen flow evenly through your body (creating a block) and more concentration on hip alignment. The heat is 85 degrees - enough warmth to work up a sweat and the elimination of fixed firm and toe stand (optional for advanced students) is also to reduce the risk of knee injury.
Listen, Bikram works for a lot of people - Tony gives credit to Bikram as that is where he got his start - but if you want to be kinder to your body and continue with your yoga practice - give his series a try, go to his website and check out his Yoga Challenge I dvd, and if you're in the area or want to make the trip out to SF - his 84 classic asanas workshops are so worth the price, time and effort. Plus - you get to marvel in the presence of a master yogi by watching Tony demonstrate. (Tony practices yoga every single day and has since he was 17 years old) Can Bikram say that? I think not!!
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| I might further add that the majority of proceeds from Tony's studio and teachings go into their Non-Profit organization. Where does the $5k go that Bikram charges each student teacher...hmmm. |
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| deelited,
Tony's classes do sound great. Too bad the only place to take them is in SF. If I lived there, I would definitely give them a try but I don't have the self-discipline to do a home practice so I will continue with my Bikram classes which I still love (I actually enjoy the heat) and I appear to be very fortunate in having really good instructors at the studio I attend. I have seen a great deal of negative comments about Bikram instructors in this forum.
Anyway, I have Tony's YC I poster hanging on the wall in my office at work (where I am now) and I am trying to add some of his other asanas in at the beginning of my Bikram classes, before the class starts. |
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| Seems the negative comments centered on the Bikram style being touted as a panacea for any condition and could be done by anybody regardless of their condition...and maybe even more so in that Yogi Bikram fervently decrees that and instills it in his trainee-teachers and allows them no deviation. But like you intoned Kathy Ann, good teachers and wizened students modify as needed.
Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 1:22 PM
deelited,
Tony's classes do sound great. Too bad the only place to take them is in SF. If I lived there, I would definitely give them a try but I don't have the self-discipline to do a home practice so I will continue with my Bikram classes which I still love (I actually enjoy the heat) and I appear to be very fortunate in having really good instructors at the studio I attend. I have seen a great deal of negative comments about Bikram instructors in this forum.
Anyway, I have Tony's YC I poster hanging on the wall in my office at work (where I am now) and I am trying to add some of his other asanas in at the beginning of my Bikram classes, before the class starts. |
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| I don't have any problem with Bikram making a buck--caveat emptor and all that. His program got me interested in yoga so that's a good thing for me. Now what bothers me is a doofus like Jim Cary making $20M for a freaking movie!
deelited - 2004-04-23 12:41 PM
I might further add that the majority of proceeds from Tony's studio and teachings go into their Non-Profit organization. Where does the $5k go that Bikram charges each student teacher...hmmm. |
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| I agree with you Bruce. Bikram has brought his style of yoga "to the masses" so to speak and he is just practicing American capitalism. I don't really care how rich he is. He does seem to have alienated a lot of people though, with his bravado, which is too bad, in my opinion. I feel like we "don't get no respect" as Bikram yogi/yoginis because of it.
Jim Carrey a doofus? That's putting it mildly!
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| I think if I had to wade thru years of gentle yoga, I'd not have stuck with it. By "Bikramming" it initially, I saw the mental and physical benefits gained and through research (Web, books, this forum, personal associations, etc) I discovere so many other aspects of yoga that interest me and can only enahnce my practice. And I respect you kiddo--smooch! (no kissing emoticon here--what's up with that?)
Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 2:23 PM
I agree with you Bruce. Bikram has brought his style of yoga "to the masses" so to speak and he is just practicing American capitalism. I don't really care how rich he is. He does seem to have alienated a lot of people though, with his bravado, which is too bad, in my opinion. I feel like we "don't get no respect" as Bikram yogi/yoginis because of it.
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| Bruce - We seem to be very much on the same track in our yoga journey. Smooch back at ya  (Not sure about the emoticon - just looks like red lips) |
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| Let's meet in El Paso--that's about half way between us and have a beer and compare notes--and tour the Tony Lama boot factory.
Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 2:55 PM
Bruce - We seem to be very much on the same track in our yoga journey. Smooch back at ya (Not sure about the emoticon - just looks like red lips ) |
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| Wow! That sounds like fun (I think) 
El Paso - that used to be sort of a hole-in the-wall sort of place, didn't it? I supposed it's probably changed after all these years. I went there with my parents when I was a wee tot. Is there a micro-brewery there? If I'm gonna drink beer, it's gotta be something good. I got spoiled when I went to England a couple of years ago.
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| I lived in the UK and Germany for awhile and know good beer kiddo--my "man fridge" in the garage is stocked with Old Speckled Hen, a fine English ale and Guiness of course. Plus, I'm a member of the Flying Saucer Pub where, after I sample 200 beers, I get a brass plaque on the wall inscribed with my name--what a great goal in life huh?
Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 3:09 PM
Wow! That sounds like fun (I think )
El Paso - that used to be sort of a hole-in the-wall sort of place, didn't it? I supposed it's probably changed after all these years. I went there with my parents when I was a wee tot. Is there a micro-brewery there? If I'm gonna drink beer, it's gotta be something good. I got spoiled when I went to England a couple of years ago.
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| That's great! So, how far are you toward the 200 samples? I also visited Germany and Austria a year or so ago. Lots of good brew there too although I am partial to the English "bitter". I like the creaminess and reduced carbonation. For some reason, I don't care for Guinness. As far as what I can get around here, I like Tetley's bitter and Bass Ale and I think one called "Smithwick's". There is an "English Pub" here in Phoenix that we go to that has a few of the "bitter" brands. Of course, they tasted much better in Jolly Old England. |
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| wow - who knew that a bikram forum would lead to a love connection - congratulations you two, but let's try to keep these forums to the topics they're designated for. re: bikram and his teachings and the differences b/w he and Tony - it's more what fits your lifestyle and how educated you want to be about your body and reducing the risk of injury or even knowing how to heal yourself from hyperextensions and other strains - that ball is in your court. good luck with the beer guzzling. |
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| btw - the correct url for tony's website is http://www.usyoga.org - not .com
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| Thanks Dee,
Just to clarify - Bruce and I are just joking around and we have been using this forum for a while now. I actually started this thread.
I spent most of my life in Southern Cal and have been to SF many times. I work full time so I have a limited amount of vacation time which I like to use to go to Hawaii or Europe. But, if I did have more free time, I probably would swing on over and take one of Tony's classes. Maybe someday......... |
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| Jose from Chgo here... I just wanted to say that I do Bikram 4x a week and I'm hooked! I started my practice in NYC and the instructors there are amazing!!! Most are professional dancers and one could tell that they totally believe and respect what they teach. My only wish would be that ALL instructors paid the amount of attention to people's poses as they did in NYC. I watched newbies twist and turn in dangerosuly painful ways and not a peep from instructors who were standing right next to them. I for one have been a "hotdog" at a few classes and am still feeling the negative effects for it (pain all around the knees). I know it's my responsibilty to not push my body but it's nice to know that if the teach catches me doing something wrong, he/she will correct me. |
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| Hi Jose,
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| Dear Deelite,
Are you a forum moderator? Didn't think so--Kathy Ann and I will discuss what we please thankyouverymuch. I'm teasing you ya know--BUT, I think if we stick purely to yoga topics, it'll get pretty darn dry here and won't hold my interest.
deelite - 2004-04-23 5:20 PM
wow - who knew that a bikram forum would lead to a love connection - congratulations you two, but let's try to keep these forums to the topics they're designated for. re: bikram and his teachings and the differences b/w he and Tony - it's more what fits your lifestyle and how educated you want to be about your body and reducing the risk of injury or even knowing how to heal yourself from hyperextensions and other strains - that ball is in your court. good luck with the beer guzzling. |
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| I'm Soooo disappointed Kathy Ann--tell the truth now--we do naked Bikram in El Paso--you're insatiable and I'm a freak...AND I only have 157 beers of the 200 needed for my permanent plaque at the Flying Saucer.
Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 6:05 PM
Thanks Dee,
Just to clarify - Bruce and I are just joking around and we have been using this forum for a while now. I actually started this thread.
I spent most of my life in Southern Cal and have been to SF many times. I work full time so I have a limited amount of vacation time which I like to use to go to Hawaii or Europe. But, if I did have more free time, I probably would swing on over and take one of Tony's classes. Maybe someday......... |
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| Bruce - you promised me you wouldn't tell!! I am absolutely mortified!  |
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Kathy Ann - 2004-04-23 7:42 PM
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| Hiya Kathy! I am in Chgo and will be moving to Miami Beach on May 1st. I've done Bikram in NYC-4 studios, Chgo-3 studios and Miami-one.
Just saw a bit of Tony's website and I'm impressed. I'd love to try his classes if I'm ever in SF.
The thing about instructors who let people walk in and out of rooms and "do their own thing" in class, is that I personally find it very distracting. The NYC folks would really insist that you wait till the pose was done b4 walking out and/or you just sit out the pose if it got too much. My studio in Chgo is a bit too nilly willy about sticking to the doing ALL the poses twice and it kills me when they "cut corners" just because the class is running 5 mins over!!! 
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| Hot4Yoga - i know what you're saying about being 'distracted' - however, those who are distracted are those that aren't directing full focus within themselves - ultimate goal of yoga to maximize benefits for body, mind and soul. and i have been to many bikram yoga studios over the course of my 8 years of bikram practice and i'm sure you know that some studios keep their heat cranked up way higher than others - also the number of students in the studio, size of the studio, what you had to eat that day, how much sleep you had or how many beers you've been drinking can always affect your ability to hang in there in a bikram class. those people who step out of the room - i have on a few occasions to run cold water on my forearms as i've passed out and been sick to my stomach - know their limitations and know when they need to take a breather or not. everyone's limitations are different. people can die from dehydration. i'll leave it at that. i also believe that choosing a type of yoga is like choosing a particular diet plan. it's all about what makes sense to you and what suits you best. if bikram is your thing, great. i'm just sharing the knowledge that i've gained from educating myself more about the benefits of doing the postures as they were originally created - which still give you an amazing athletic workout but without the risk of injury. good luck with your move to miami beach and if anyone ever wants to come out to sf to take a class with tony - give me a shout. |
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| Hot4yoga,
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| I agree with Deelited about the differences in yoga as Tony teaches and as Bikram teaches.
I've got hundreds of hours of practice in both styles of yoga. There's
no comparison in terms of either the quality of the sequences or the liklihood of injury. Bikram
yoga is narrow and contains lots of great opportunities to injure your knees or get heat
stroke (we actually had a guy have a heart attack in my local Bikram studio). Tony has not
gone to excessive heat or long stands on a hyperextended knee. But the best
part of Tony's yoga, IMHO, is that it has advanced versions, so that you aren't stuck at the
beginner level forever. Bikram simply doesn't offer this.
I do appreciate that it's a whole lot easier to find a Bikram studio than a Yoga Challenge studio,
at present, but you can always work with your Bikram teacher. Most of them are interested
in helping you learn yoga, avoid injury, and advance. It's only the outliers who insist on
keeping the studio at 105 F or who tell you that you can't vary the poses to avoid ruining
your knees. If you run into teachers like that, my advice is LEAVE. Odds are that all they
know about yoga is a memorized "dialog" and that they don't know the difference between
a straight knee and a hyperextended one. It's YOUR yoga, after all, and the studio is not
Marine Bootcamp.
It would be inappropriate for me to list the names of Bikram studios to avoid, but in my travels
I've run into two or three that I wouldn't send my enemies to....
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| Hi BG - why do you think it inappropriate to list studios where you had bad experiences? I for one would appreciate the "heads up". |
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| Thanks, hot4yoga, I'll check them out. Agreed on the heads-up on unpleasant studios - especially if it's a safety issue, which seems to be even more of a concern in regards to bikram than other types of yoga... |
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| Hi hot4yoga ---
I'm not really comfortable reporting my experiences with individual
studios because they are all small businesses trying to get by, and
their local clients will determine their fate. It's not as if they are
on a national stage, hearing criticism and ignoring it. Don't worry,
the ones I'm thinking of are not in the Windy City or Miami Beach.
I will tell you that one studio owner threw me out of the studio for
doing full camel on the second set of camel and another cancelled
a friend's membership simply because they used a hand towel for
grip. I think this is insane behavior, and I can't imagine that
anyone would put up with it for very long. I placed a curse on the
first studio ("I curse you, Oh studio!")...the owner was a total
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| Dee -
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| Wow Bay Guy - that is harsh! I'd definately wouldn't return to a class where they were that strick. Glad you place your curse!
-Jose
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| I've been doing bikram for 6 months now and my knees are stronger. The bottom line is that the Bikram style works. I used to do power yoga in an unheated studio and I felt sore after each practice. I've never felt sore after a bikram session. |
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Have You Heard of Tony Sanchez????